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Gruppo Gamma Vanguard SteelvsLilienthal Berlin Neolux Day Date – Blue Rose Gold

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Gruppo Gamma Vanguard Steel

The Gruppo Gamma Vanguard Steel is praised for its aged steel case and cream sandwich dial. However, some owners dislike the distorted sapphire crystal and the absence of minute markers, with one noting difficulty in replacing the crystal due to hand fitment. The watch features a Miyota 9039 movement with a 42-hour power reserve and an accuracy range of -10 to +30 seconds per day, and is offered with two strap options. On balance, owners value the Gruppo Gamma Vanguard Steel for its distinctive aged aesthetic and dial design, despite some reservations about the crystal.

From video reviewers

Movement accuracy is a notable strength, with one reviewer noting a -1.8 second per day deviation after initial testing. A weakness is the substantial price hike for the re-release model, which raises questions about whether the upgrades justify the cost. Reviewers disagree on the watch's originality, with one calling it "decidedly derivative" and the other not mentioning this aspect.

Lilienthal Berlin Neolux Day Date – Blue Rose Gold

Owners widely praise Lilienthal Berlin for its award-winning minimalist design and value, particularly when purchased at a discount, with one owner noting the Meteorite IV model looks as good as a much more expensive watch. Some owners appreciate the blue and orange sunburst dial and good finishing, while others find the dial and hands machine-stamped without polished edges and the leather quality basic. Owners report sharp case edges causing skin irritation and difficult-to-remove strap pins, with one finding it unwearable due to discomfort, though another enjoyed the clean design and good lume. The brand's minimalist aesthetic is praised, but some models lack lume, and some owners have experienced significant shipping delays and unresponsive customer support, with some describing the company as potentially fraudulent. Overall, owners rate Lilienthal Berlin highly for its Bauhaus-inspired design and perceived value, though concerns about quality and customer service are noted.

At a glance

11 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Vanguard Steel42mm
Neolux Day Date – Blue Rose Gold42.5mm
Power Reserve
Vanguard Steel42h
Neolux Day Date – Blue Rose Gold40h
Water Resistance
Vanguard Steel100m
Neolux Day Date – Blue Rose Gold50m
MSRP
Vanguard Steel$790
Neolux Day Date – Blue Rose Gold$499

Full specifications

Case

5 specs
Diameter
42mm
42.5mm
Thickness
12.6mm
11.5mm
Lug-to-Lug
49.5mm
46mm
Lug Width
22mm
20mm
Water Resistance
100m
50m

Crystal & Dial

3 specs
AR Coating
Yes
Inner
Dial Color
Forged Carbon
Lume
Super-LumiNova
None

Movement

2 specs
Caliber
Miyota 9039
Miyota 8205
Power Reserve
42h
40h

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$790
$499
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