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Gruppo Gamma Vanguard SteelvsSeiko Presage Classic Series

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Vanguard Steel
Gruppo GammaVanguard Steel
MSRP $790
Presage Classic Series
SeikoPresage Classic Series
MSRP $1,125

At a glance

13 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Vanguard Steel42mm
Presage Classic Series40.2mm
Power Reserve
Vanguard Steel42h
Presage Classic Series72h
Water Resistance
Vanguard Steel100m
Presage Classic Series100m
MSRP
Vanguard Steel$790
Presage Classic Series$1,125

Full specifications

Case

5 specs
Category
Dress
Diameter
42mm
40.2mm
Thickness
12.6mm
13mm
Lug-to-Lug
49.5mm
46mm
Lug Width
22mm
20mm

Crystal & Dial

4 specs
Crystal Shape
Flat
Curved
AR Coating
Yes
Anti-reflective coating on inner surface
Dial Color
Forged Carbon
Black
Lume
Super-LumiNova
None

Movement

3 specs
Caliber
Miyota 9039
6R5J
Power Reserve
42h
72h
Jewels
25
24

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$790
$1,125

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What people say

Owners + reviewers, side by side

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Gruppo Gamma Vanguard Steel

The Gruppo Gamma Vanguard Steel is praised for its aged steel case and cream sandwich dial. However, some owners dislike the distorted sapphire crystal and the absence of minute markers, with one noting difficulty in replacing the crystal due to hand fitment. The watch features a Miyota 9039 movement with a 42-hour power reserve and an accuracy range of -10 to +30 seconds per day, and is offered with two strap options. On balance, owners value the Gruppo Gamma Vanguard Steel for its distinctive aged aesthetic and dial design, despite some reservations about the crystal.

From video reviewers

Movement accuracy is a notable strength, with one reviewer noting a -1.8 second per day deviation after initial testing. A weakness is the substantial price hike for the re-release model, which raises questions about whether the upgrades justify the cost. Reviewers disagree on the watch's originality, with one calling it "decidedly derivative" and the other not mentioning this aspect.

Seiko Presage Classic Series

The Seiko Presage Classic Series is widely praised for its sublime dial and hand finishing, with reviewers noting its radiant sunburst or textured dials inspired by silk and its elegant alpha hands and applied indices. Owners and reviewers highlight the robust elegance and value proposition, with 36mm and 40.2mm case options offering vintage proportions and 100m water resistance for versatility. The in-house 6R51 or 6R55 movement provides a substantial 72-hour power reserve. One owner criticizes the pin and collar bracelet system as awful, and the 24-hour subdial is noted as potentially annoying to some. Prices range from US$950 to US$1,800 depending on the model and features. Overall, owners and reviewers rate the Seiko Presage Classic Series highly for its exceptional dial finishing and versatile wearability at its price point.

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