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Gruppo Gamma Vanguard SteelvsSeiko Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Enamel Dial

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Gruppo Gamma Vanguard Steel

The Gruppo Gamma Vanguard Steel is praised for its aged steel case and cream sandwich dial. However, some owners dislike the distorted sapphire crystal and the absence of minute markers, with one noting difficulty in replacing the crystal due to hand fitment. The watch features a Miyota 9039 movement with a 42-hour power reserve and an accuracy range of -10 to +30 seconds per day, and is offered with two strap options. On balance, owners value the Gruppo Gamma Vanguard Steel for its distinctive aged aesthetic and dial design, despite some reservations about the crystal.

From video reviewers

Movement accuracy is a notable strength, with one reviewer noting a -1.8 second per day deviation after initial testing. A weakness is the substantial price hike for the re-release model, which raises questions about whether the upgrades justify the cost. Reviewers disagree on the watch's originality, with one calling it "decidedly derivative" and the other not mentioning this aspect.

Seiko Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Enamel Dial

Owners and reviewers widely praise the Seiko Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Enamel Dial for its high-quality, handcrafted enamel dials, with specific commendations for the depth and subtle gloss of urushi lacquer and the excellent legibility of minimalistic markers and contrasting hands. The watches are frequently cited as offering significant value, with one reviewer noting the SPB163 as a great value at €1,300, and another highlighting the series' impressive 100M water resistance and Japanese design inspiration at $1,300 USD. However, the 12.4mm to 12.8mm thickness is noted by multiple sources as a potential area for improvement, with a preference for under 12mm, and one owner dislikes the date window. Accuracy figures for the 6R27 movement range from -15 to +25 seconds per day, and its power reserve is closer to 35-40 hours than the advertised 45 hours.

At a glance

13 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Vanguard Steel42mm
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Enamel Dial40.2mm
Power Reserve
Vanguard Steel42h
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Enamel Dial72h
Water Resistance
Vanguard Steel100m
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Enamel Dial100m
MSRP
Vanguard Steel$790
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Enamel Dial$1,400

Full specifications

Case

5 specs
Category
Dress
Diameter
42mm
40.2mm
Thickness
12.6mm
12.1mm
Lug-to-Lug
49.5mm
48mm
Lug Width
22mm
20mm

Crystal & Dial

4 specs
Crystal Shape
Flat
Curved
AR Coating
Yes
Anti-reflective coating on inner surface
Dial Color
Forged Carbon
Black
Lume
Super-LumiNova
None

Movement

3 specs
Caliber
Miyota 9039
6R5H
Power Reserve
42h
72h
Jewels
25
24

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$790
$1,400
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