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Gruppo Gamma Vanguard SteelvsSeiko Presage Inspired by Japanese Gardens

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Vanguard Steel
Gruppo GammaVanguard Steel
MSRP $790

At a glance

14 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Vanguard Steel42mm
Presage Inspired by Japanese Gardens41.8mm
Power Reserve
Vanguard Steel42h
Presage Inspired by Japanese Gardens41h
Water Resistance
Vanguard Steel100m
Presage Inspired by Japanese Gardens
MSRP
Vanguard Steel$790
Presage Inspired by Japanese Gardens$595

Full specifications

Case

6 specs
Category
Dress
Diameter
42mm
41.8mm
Thickness
12.6mm
12.5mm
Lug-to-Lug
49.5mm
48.4mm
Lug Width
22mm
20mm
Water Resistance
100m
Splash Resistant

Crystal & Dial

4 specs
Crystal Shape
Flat
Curved
AR Coating
Yes
Inner
Dial Color
Forged Carbon
Black
Lume
Super-LumiNova
None

Movement

3 specs
Caliber
Miyota 9039
4R39
Power Reserve
42h
41h
Jewels
25
24

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$790
$595

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What people say

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Gruppo Gamma Vanguard Steel

The Gruppo Gamma Vanguard Steel is praised for its aged steel case and cream sandwich dial. However, some owners dislike the distorted sapphire crystal and the absence of minute markers, with one noting difficulty in replacing the crystal due to hand fitment. The watch features a Miyota 9039 movement with a 42-hour power reserve and an accuracy range of -10 to +30 seconds per day, and is offered with two strap options. On balance, owners value the Gruppo Gamma Vanguard Steel for its distinctive aged aesthetic and dial design, despite some reservations about the crystal.

From video reviewers

Movement accuracy is a notable strength, with one reviewer noting a -1.8 second per day deviation after initial testing. A weakness is the substantial price hike for the re-release model, which raises questions about whether the upgrades justify the cost. Reviewers disagree on the watch's originality, with one calling it "decidedly derivative" and the other not mentioning this aspect.

Seiko Presage Inspired by Japanese Gardens

Owners widely praise the Seiko Presage Inspired by Japanese Gardens for its beautiful dial designs, with one owner noting the SSA464 was love at first sight and another calling the SSA421J1 a beautiful first dress watch. The watch is frequently described as a serious bang-for-your-buck limited edition offering good build quality for daily wear, though some owners have noted the appearance of tiny scratches on the bezel and that the bracelet can be initially scratchy. One owner found the watch "truly stunning in person" and "tastefully done," while another found its fit surprisingly natural despite its size. Overall, owners rate the Seiko Presage Inspired by Japanese Gardens highly for its stunning aesthetics and value.

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