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Gruppo Gamma Vanguard SteelvsSugess Tourbillon Master SU8001

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Gruppo Gamma Vanguard Steel

The Gruppo Gamma Vanguard Steel is praised for its aged steel case and cream sandwich dial. However, some owners dislike the distorted sapphire crystal and the absence of minute markers, with one noting difficulty in replacing the crystal due to hand fitment. The watch features a Miyota 9039 movement with a 42-hour power reserve and an accuracy range of -10 to +30 seconds per day, and is offered with two strap options. On balance, owners value the Gruppo Gamma Vanguard Steel for its distinctive aged aesthetic and dial design, despite some reservations about the crystal.

From video reviewers

Movement accuracy is a notable strength, with one reviewer noting a -1.8 second per day deviation after initial testing. A weakness is the substantial price hike for the re-release model, which raises questions about whether the upgrades justify the cost. Reviewers disagree on the watch's originality, with one calling it "decidedly derivative" and the other not mentioning this aspect.

Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8001

Owners widely praise the Sugess Tourbillon Master for its accessible tourbillon complication and value, with one owner noting an initial accuracy of +2 seconds per day. However, community feedback flags a winding stem that feels flimsy and straps that are considered poor, featuring a comically large buckle. Some owners report a degradation in accuracy to around -20 seconds per day after a month, and the steel case edges are described as rounded with the material proving soft and prone to scratching. On balance, owners view the Sugess Tourbillon Master as a remarkable value for its tourbillon feature, despite concerns regarding strap quality and long-term material durability.

At a glance

17 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Vanguard Steel42mm
Tourbillon Master SU800141mm
Power Reserve
Vanguard Steel42h
Tourbillon Master SU800140h
Water Resistance
Vanguard Steel100m
Tourbillon Master SU800150m
MSRP
Vanguard Steel$790
Tourbillon Master SU8001$999

Full specifications

Case

8 specs
Category
Chronograph
Diameter
42mm
41mm
Thickness
12.6mm
10mm
Lug-to-Lug
49.5mm
46mm
Lug Width
22mm
10mm
Material
Stainless Steel
Stainless Steel/Rose Gold
Water Resistance
100m
50m
Caseback
Solid
Display

Crystal & Dial

3 specs
AR Coating
Yes
Inner
Dial Color
Forged Carbon
Black
Lume
Super-LumiNova
None

Movement

5 specs
Caliber
Miyota 9039
Seagull ST8000
Type
Automatic
Manual
Beat Rate
28,800 vph
3 vph
Power Reserve
42h
40h
Complications
None
GMT, Moonphase, Date, Power reserve indicator

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$790
$999
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