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Gruppo Gamma Vanguard SteelvsTudor Black Bay

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Vanguard Steel
Gruppo GammaVanguard Steel
MSRP $790
Black Bay
TudorBlack Bay
What people say

Owners + reviewers, side by side

Synthesized for each watch independently from owner discussions, enthusiast forums, written reviews, and video reviewers.

Gruppo Gamma Vanguard Steel

The Gruppo Gamma Vanguard Steel is praised for its aged steel case and cream sandwich dial. However, some owners dislike the distorted sapphire crystal and the absence of minute markers, with one noting difficulty in replacing the crystal due to hand fitment. The watch features a Miyota 9039 movement with a 42-hour power reserve and an accuracy range of -10 to +30 seconds per day, and is offered with two strap options. On balance, owners value the Gruppo Gamma Vanguard Steel for its distinctive aged aesthetic and dial design, despite some reservations about the crystal.

From video reviewers

Movement accuracy is a notable strength, with one reviewer noting a -1.8 second per day deviation after initial testing. A weakness is the substantial price hike for the re-release model, which raises questions about whether the upgrades justify the cost. Reviewers disagree on the watch's originality, with one calling it "decidedly derivative" and the other not mentioning this aspect.

Tudor Black Bay

Owners widely praise the Tudor Black Bay for its comfortable wearability, robust build, and vintage-inspired aesthetics, with specific mentions of its satisfying winding feel and sturdy bezel action. Reviewers highlight the 39mm Black Bay 58's comfortable size and thinness, while others note the 41mm Master Chronometer's reliable timekeeping and magnetic resistance. Some owners find the GMT hand difficult to distinguish in low light. A recurring point of contention across multiple sources is the lack of on-the-fly micro-adjustment on the bracelet, though some find aftermarket solutions adequate. One owner reported the watch losing two minutes a day after six years, requiring a service. Overall, owners and reviewers rate the Tudor Black Bay highly for its blend of vintage charm, modern robustness, and comfortable wearability.

From video reviewers

The COSC-certified accuracy of the movement is a notable strength. The 14.7mm to 14.8mm thickness is cited as a potential drawback. Reviewers are divided on whether the newer models represent a departure from the Black Bay's heritage design.

At a glance

13 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Vanguard Steel42mm
Black Bay41mm
Power Reserve
Vanguard Steel42h
Black Bay70h
Water Resistance
Vanguard Steel100m
Black Bay200m
MSRP
Vanguard Steel$790
Black Bay

Full specifications

Case

7 specs
Category
Diver
Diameter
42mm
41mm
Thickness
12.6mm
14.7mm
Lug-to-Lug
49.5mm
46mm
Finish
Brushed and polished
Polished + Satin
Water Resistance
100m
200m
Caseback
Solid
Engraved

Crystal & Dial

3 specs
AR Coating
Yes
Inner
Dial Color
Forged Carbon
Black
Lume
Super-LumiNova
None

Movement

2 specs
Caliber
Miyota 9039
MT5602
Power Reserve
42h
70h

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$790
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