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Atelier Wen Millésime 2025 — Perception 漩 (Xuán)vsSugess MoonPhase Master SU2108

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Millésime 2025 — Perception 漩 (Xuán)
Atelier WenMillésime 2025 — Perception 漩 (Xuán)
MSRP $28,000
MoonPhase Master SU2108
SugessMoonPhase Master SU2108
MSRP $549

At a glance

16 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Millésime 2025 — Perception 漩 (Xuán)38.5mm
MoonPhase Master SU210840mm
Power Reserve
Millésime 2025 — Perception 漩 (Xuán)40h
MoonPhase Master SU210841h
Water Resistance
Millésime 2025 — Perception 漩 (Xuán)50m
MoonPhase Master SU21085m
MSRP
Millésime 2025 — Perception 漩 (Xuán)$28,000
MoonPhase Master SU2108$549

Full specifications

Case

9 specs
Category
Dress
Chronograph
Diameter
38.5mm
40mm
Thickness
11.5mm
Lug-to-Lug
46mm
Lug Width
19mm
20mm
Material
Stainless Steel
Stainless Steel/Gold
Finish
Brushed and polished
Polished
Water Resistance
50m
5m
Caseback
Solid
Display

Crystal & Dial

1 specs
Dial Color
Xuán
S438 White

Movement

5 specs
Caliber
Seagull ST21
Beat Rate
28,800 vph
4 vph
Power Reserve
40h
41h
Jewels
25
21
Complications
None
GMT, Moonphase, Date

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$28,000
$549

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What people say

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Atelier Wen Millésime 2025 — Perception 漩 (Xuán)

Owners widely praise the Atelier Wen Perception's pietersite dial for its captivating color shifts and its thin 9.4mm profile. However, community feedback flags issues with the finishing, citing chipped or jagged indices, unchamfered case edges, and sunken indices. Some owners also find the movement unremarkable for the price point, and opinions on the bracelet finishing are mixed, with some noting it as mid-tier compared to higher-end brands, though later batches reportedly show improvements. On balance, owners are divided on the Atelier Wen Perception, with strong opinions on both its striking dial and its inconsistent finishing.

From video reviewers

The pietersite dial is a standout aesthetic feature, and the watch is constructed from 904L steel. The slim 9.4mm profile was noted.

Sugess MoonPhase Master SU2108

Owners widely praise the Sugess MoonPhase Master SU2108 for its gorgeous, affordable dress watch aesthetic, intricate dial details, and elegant rose gold finish. Reviewers note a well-decorated Seagull ST2108 movement averaging +7 seconds daily, a lumed moonphase, applied Roman numerals, and a multi-textured dial. However, some owners find the 40mm diameter and 50mm lug-to-lug too large for smaller wrists, and the polished blue hands can make quick time-telling difficult. Criticisms also include a date hand that obscures numerals, a domed sapphire crystal lacking AR coating, and stiff stock straps. On balance, owners rate the Sugess MoonPhase Master SU2108 highly for its elegant design and value in the affordable dress watch segment.

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