AVI-8 Hawker Hunter Retrograde ChronographvsLilienthal Berlin Lilienthal 1

Owners widely praise the AVI-8 Hawker Hunter Retrograde Chronograph's airplane-inspired dial design and the comfortable, soft leather strap with a no-break-in clasp. However, one owner notes that the case, crown, and glass crystal fitment left much to be desired, feeling cheap, and the mineral glass is prone to scratching. The watch is considered overpriced for its features, though appealing when found on sale. On balance, owners find the AVI-8 Hawker Hunter Retrograde Chronograph appealing for its unique dial and comfortable strap, despite concerns about case finishing and the mineral crystal.

Owners widely praise the Lilienthal Berlin L1 for its clean Bauhaus-inspired design, good value especially when on sale, and quality feel, with some noting its scratch-resistant case and crystal. The Sellita SW200 movement and sapphire crystals are also highlighted. However, a significant number of owners report abysmal customer service, long shipping delays, and questionable quality control, including issues with alignment, accuracy, and detached crowns. Some find the recessed crown difficult to use for hand-winding, and one owner noted lume was only on the hands. Overall, owners rate the Lilienthal Berlin L1 highly for its aesthetics and value, tempered by consistent complaints about customer service and reliability.