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Tornek-Rayville CISO M38 MAC V SOGvsOrient Symphony IV

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Tornek-Rayville CISO M38 MAC V SOG

The Tornek-Rayville CISO M38 MAC V SOG is praised for its solid feel and excellent finishing, featuring a comfortable five-link bracelet. It is recognized as an homage to a 1960s Seiko used by MACV-SOG operatives, incorporating modern updates like a 38mm case. Owners and community members express admiration for the watch's historical connection to "spooky" Special Forces operations. Overall, owners rate the Tornek-Rayville CISO M38 MAC V SOG highly for its historical significance and solid build quality at the price.

Orient Symphony IV

Owners widely praise the Orient Symphony IV for its exceptional value, in-house movement, and sapphire crystal. The watch is noted for its refined look and feel, with owners finding it wears smaller than its case size suggests and offers excellent band customization options. One owner reports accuracy of approximately -20 seconds per day, while another notes the bracelet is not ideal. Some owners expressed a desire for smaller case size options and preferred darker dials over the all-silver variant. Overall, owners rate the Orient Symphony IV highly for its value and refined appearance at its price point.

At a glance

18 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
CISO M38 MAC V SOG38mm
Symphony IV41.6mm
Power Reserve
CISO M38 MAC V SOG42h
Symphony IV40h
Water Resistance
CISO M38 MAC V SOG100m
Symphony IV50m
MSRP
CISO M38 MAC V SOG$745
Symphony IV$325

Full specifications

Case

7 specs
Category
Dress
Diameter
38mm
41.6mm
Thickness
12.45mm
11.7mm
Lug-to-Lug
43.6mm
48.3mm
Lug Width
20mm
22mm
Water Resistance
100m
50m
Caseback
Solid
Display

Crystal & Dial

5 specs
Crystal Shape
Flat
AR Coating
Yes
Dial Color
Black
Champagne
Indices
Applied
Lume
Superluminova
None

Movement

5 specs
Caliber
TMI NH36
Orient F6722
Beat Rate
28,800 vph
21,600 vph
Power Reserve
42h
40h
Jewels
25
22
Complications
None
Date

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$745
$325
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