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Tornek-Rayville CISO M38 MAC V SOGvsTimefactors Commander

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Commander
TimefactorsCommander
MSRP $490
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Tornek-Rayville CISO M38 MAC V SOG

The Tornek-Rayville CISO M38 MAC V SOG is praised for its solid feel and excellent finishing, featuring a comfortable five-link bracelet. It is recognized as an homage to a 1960s Seiko used by MACV-SOG operatives, incorporating modern updates like a 38mm case. Owners and community members express admiration for the watch's historical connection to "spooky" Special Forces operations. Overall, owners rate the Tornek-Rayville CISO M38 MAC V SOG highly for its historical significance and solid build quality at the price.

Timefactors Commander

Owners widely praise the Timefactors Commander for its vintage aesthetic, featuring a clean no-date dial with gilt accents, creamy lume, and appealing sunburst effects, all contributing to a premium feel and excellent build quality for the price. However, some owners note its 13.7mm thickness and 162-gram weight are substantial, and the bezel numeral font is considered disproportionately small. The dial is also described as quite reflective, and the bracelet is prone to desk rash. On balance, owners rate the Timefactors Commander highly for its vintage design and robust build quality at its price point.

At a glance

9 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
CISO M38 MAC V SOG38mm
Commander38mm
Power Reserve
CISO M38 MAC V SOG42h
Commander
Water Resistance
CISO M38 MAC V SOG100m
Commander300m
MSRP
CISO M38 MAC V SOG$745
Commander$490

Full specifications

Case

4 specs
Category
Thickness
12.45mm
14mm
Lug-to-Lug
43.6mm
45mm
Water Resistance
100m
300m

Crystal & Dial

2 specs
AR Coating
Yes
Inner
Lume
Superluminova
None

Movement

2 specs
Caliber
TMI NH36
Miyota 9039
Power Reserve
42h

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$745
$490
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