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Farr + Swit VicevsSugess Tourbillon Master SU8004

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Vice
Farr + SwitVice
MSRP $729
Tourbillon Master SU8004
SugessTourbillon Master SU8004
MSRP $1,199
What people say

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Farr + Swit Vice

The Farr + Swit Vice is widely praised for its vibrant, 1980s-inspired colorways and unique dial designs, with owners frequently highlighting its fun aesthetic and legibility. Reviewers and owners alike note its comfortable wearability and good value, especially considering the included straps. The watch features extensive lume applications, which are described as great by one owner. Some owners express a desire for an automatic movement option or the removal of the date function. The Farr + Swit Vice is a solar quartz chronograph with a simulated "mecha" chronograph function, which some find lacks the tactile feel of true mechaquartz. Overall, owners and reviewers rate the Farr + Swit Vice highly for its distinctive style and value proposition.

Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8004

Owners widely praise the Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8004 for its stunning enamel dial, incredible finishing for the price, and the visual appeal of its genuine tourbillon, with some reporting exceptional accuracy of +/- 1 second per day. The Seagull ST8230 movement is considered a reliable automatic tourbillon at an accessible price point, offering a complex complication that functions as intended, though it is not considered world-class compared to Swiss movements. Some owners find the strap and buckle comically large, the winding stem flimsy, and the crown small for winding, while others note the flat, reflective crystal and question long-term durability and serviceability due to its Chinese origin and limited local support. The Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8004 is considered a genuine option at a price comparable to replicas, valued for its aesthetic appeal and the presence of a tourbillon complication.

From video reviewers

The tourbillon complication at this price point is a significant strength. Reviewers did not reach a consensus on any weaknesses.

At a glance

15 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Vice40mm
Tourbillon Master SU800441mm
Power Reserve
Vice42h
Tourbillon Master SU800440h
Water Resistance
Vice300m
Tourbillon Master SU80045m
MSRP
Vice$729
Tourbillon Master SU8004$1,199

Full specifications

Case

8 specs
Category
Chronograph
Diameter
40mm
41mm
Thickness
11.5mm
10mm
Lug-to-Lug
48mm
46mm
Lug Width
20mm
21mm
Material
Stainless Steel
Stainless Steel/Rose Gold
Water Resistance
300m
5m
Caseback
Solid
Display

Crystal & Dial

2 specs
Dial Color
Black
Lume
C3 Green Grade X EF, C9 Teal Grade X
None

Movement

4 specs
Caliber
Miyota 9015
Seagull ST8230
Beat Rate
28,800 vph
3 vph
Power Reserve
42h
40h
Complications
None
GMT, Moonphase, Day-date, Date

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$729
$1,199
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