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Geckota Pioneer AutomaticvsLilienthal Berlin Lilienthal 1

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Pioneer Automatic
GeckotaPioneer Automatic
MSRP $299
Lilienthal 1
Lilienthal BerlinLilienthal 1
MSRP $189

At a glance

13 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Pioneer Automatic42mm
Lilienthal 142.5mm
Power Reserve
Pioneer Automatic40h
Lilienthal 1
Water Resistance
Pioneer Automatic100m
Lilienthal 150m
MSRP
Pioneer Automatic$299
Lilienthal 1$189

Full specifications

Case

7 specs
Category
Field
Diameter
42mm
42.5mm
Thickness
14mm
7.5mm
Lug-to-Lug
45mm
Lug Width
22mm
Material
316L Stainless Steel
Stainless Steel
Water Resistance
100m
50m

Crystal & Dial

2 specs
Crystal
Domed Sapphire
Mineral
Dial Color
Black
Green

Movement

3 specs
Caliber
NH35
1L45
Type
Automatic
Quartz
Power Reserve
40h

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$299
$189

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What people say

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Geckota Pioneer Automatic

Owners widely praise the Geckota Pioneer Automatic for its retro-futuristic design, impressive lume, and unique dial finishing. The red dial variants are particularly favored for their brushed fumee appearance and vintage feel. Accuracy is noted as surprisingly good for an NH35 movement, though one owner reports +/- 20 seconds per day. The watch is considered a bargain by some at $259, while others find the $519 price for the NH35 movement in a 14mm thick case excessive. The 42mm cushion case is noted to wear large due to its lack of a prominent bezel. A minor phantom date position on the crown is reported, and the crystal is very reflective despite an anti-reflective coating. Some find the gold accents look a bit cheap, and one instance of a loose fleck of lume was observed. Overall, owners rate the Geckota Pioneer Automatic highly for its distinctive vintage aesthetic and value, particularly on sale.

Lilienthal Berlin Lilienthal 1

Owners widely praise the Lilienthal Berlin L1 for its clean Bauhaus-inspired design, good value especially when on sale, and quality feel, with some noting its scratch-resistant case and crystal. The Sellita SW200 movement and sapphire crystals are also highlighted. However, a significant number of owners report abysmal customer service, long shipping delays, and questionable quality control, including issues with alignment, accuracy, and detached crowns. Some find the recessed crown difficult to use for hand-winding, and one owner noted lume was only on the hands. Overall, owners rate the Lilienthal Berlin L1 highly for its aesthetics and value, tempered by consistent complaints about customer service and reliability.

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