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Hamilton American Classic Pan Europ Day Date AutovsSugess Tourbillon Master SU8001

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Tourbillon Master SU8001
SugessTourbillon Master SU8001
MSRP $999
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Hamilton American Classic Pan Europ Day Date Auto

Owners widely praise the Hamilton American Classic Pan Europ Day Date Auto for its striking retro aesthetics and impressive 80-hour power reserve. Reviewers and owners alike note the blue sunburst dial's elegant color shifts and the flawless finishing of the hands and indices. The case is described as comfortable and wearing light on the wrist, with some finding it surprisingly wearable on smaller wrists due to short lugs and a curved case back, though others find it wears larger than expected. Specific criticisms include challenging legibility on grey dial variants, stiff bezel grip with imperfect alignment, and non-existent lume on the bezel pip. The curved spring bars and shallow springbar placement are frequently cited as hindrances to strap changes, limiting aftermarket options and sometimes requiring modification for NATO straps. One owner reported an issue with missing warranty card and strap.

Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8001

Owners widely praise the Sugess Tourbillon Master for its accessible tourbillon complication and value, with one owner noting an initial accuracy of +2 seconds per day. However, community feedback flags a winding stem that feels flimsy and straps that are considered poor, featuring a comically large buckle. Some owners report a degradation in accuracy to around -20 seconds per day after a month, and the steel case edges are described as rounded with the material proving soft and prone to scratching. On balance, owners view the Sugess Tourbillon Master as a remarkable value for its tourbillon feature, despite concerns regarding strap quality and long-term material durability.

At a glance

13 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
American Classic Pan Europ Day Date Auto42mm
Tourbillon Master SU800141mm
Power Reserve
American Classic Pan Europ Day Date Auto80h
Tourbillon Master SU800140h
Water Resistance
American Classic Pan Europ Day Date Auto50m
Tourbillon Master SU800150m
MSRP
American Classic Pan Europ Day Date Auto$1,345
Tourbillon Master SU8001$999

Full specifications

Case

6 specs
Category
Dress
Chronograph
Diameter
42mm
41mm
Thickness
11.85mm
10mm
Lug Width
22mm
10mm
Material
Stainless Steel
Stainless Steel/Rose Gold
Caseback
Solid
Display

Crystal & Dial

1 specs
Dial Color
Blue
Black

Movement

5 specs
Caliber
H-30
Seagull ST8000
Type
Automatic
Manual
Beat Rate
28,800 vph
3 vph
Power Reserve
80h
40h
Complications
None
GMT, Moonphase, Date, Power reserve indicator

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$1,345
$999
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