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Halios Universa IIvsSugess Tourbillon Master SU8230

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Universa II
HaliosUniversa II
MSRP $995
Tourbillon Master SU8230
SugessTourbillon Master SU8230
MSRP $1,399

At a glance

14 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Universa II38mm
Tourbillon Master SU823041mm
Power Reserve
Universa II40h
Tourbillon Master SU823040h
Water Resistance
Universa II100m
Tourbillon Master SU823050m
MSRP
Universa II$995
Tourbillon Master SU8230$1,399

Full specifications

Case

8 specs
Category
Dress
Chronograph
Diameter
38mm
41mm
Thickness
11.8mm
11mm
Lug-to-Lug
48mm
46mm
Lug Width
20mm
11mm
Material
316L Stainless Steel
Yellow Gold/Rose Gold/Bronze
Water Resistance
100m
50m
Caseback
Solid
Display

Crystal & Dial

2 specs
Crystal
Sapphire (double-domed)
Sapphire
Dial Color
Gold
Black

Movement

3 specs
Caliber
Sellita SW300-1
Seagull ST8230
Beat Rate
28,800 vph
3 vph
Complications
None
GMT, Moonphase, Date

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$995
$1,399

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What people say

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Halios Universa II

Owners widely praise the Halios Universa II for its applied indices, excellent finishing for the price, and comfortable 38mm dimensions. The integrated bracelet design with a satisfying micro-adjust clasp and case architecture are described as masterclasses. However, some find the bracelet clasp chunkier than the overall design, and the angular lug design is noted as not being for everyone. One owner reported unexpected pastel dial colors and a poor winding action. On balance, owners rate the Halios Universa II highly for its applied indices and excellent finishing at the price point.

Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8230

Owners widely praise the Sugess Tourbillon Master for its stunning enamel dial and impressive finishing at its price point. Accuracy figures vary, with one owner reporting -12s/day and another +6 to +11s/day. Caveats include a cumbersome winding crown, limited 50m water resistance, a 21mm lug width, and a non-hacking movement, with one owner noting a power reserve around two days and noticeable resistance when winding. On balance, owners rate the Sugess Tourbillon Master highly for its visually striking dial and finishing, which significantly elevates its perceived value.

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