Lilienthal Berlin Lilienthal 1vsPhoibos Argo Bronze

Owners widely praise the Lilienthal Berlin L1 for its clean Bauhaus-inspired design, good value especially when on sale, and quality feel, with some noting its scratch-resistant case and crystal. The Sellita SW200 movement and sapphire crystals are also highlighted. However, a significant number of owners report abysmal customer service, long shipping delays, and questionable quality control, including issues with alignment, accuracy, and detached crowns. Some find the recessed crown difficult to use for hand-winding, and one owner noted lume was only on the hands. Overall, owners rate the Lilienthal Berlin L1 highly for its aesthetics and value, tempered by consistent complaints about customer service and reliability.

Owners widely praise the Phoibos Argo Bronze for its appealing design, natural patina development, and the smooth sweep of its Miyota 9015 movement. One owner highlights the watch as a "wearable piece of art," appreciating its color combinations and overall feel. The included band is noted as a good fit for narrow wrists. Overall, owners rate the Phoibos Argo Bronze highly for its aesthetic appeal and the quality of its movement.