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Lilienthal Berlin Neolux Day Date – Dark Silver BluevsSeiko Presage Cocktail Time

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Presage Cocktail Time
SeikoPresage Cocktail Time
MSRP $475
What people say

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Lilienthal Berlin Neolux Day Date – Dark Silver Blue

Owners widely praise Lilienthal Berlin for its award-winning minimalist design and value, particularly when purchased at a discount, with one owner noting the Meteorite IV model looks as good as a much more expensive watch. Some owners appreciate the blue and orange sunburst dial and good finishing, while others find the dial and hands machine-stamped without polished edges and the leather quality basic. Owners report sharp case edges causing skin irritation and difficult-to-remove strap pins, with one finding it unwearable due to discomfort, though another enjoyed the clean design and good lume. The brand's minimalist aesthetic is praised, but some models lack lume, and some owners have experienced significant shipping delays and unresponsive customer support, with some describing the company as potentially fraudulent. Overall, owners rate Lilienthal Berlin highly for its Bauhaus-inspired design and perceived value, though concerns about quality and customer service are noted.

Seiko Presage Cocktail Time

Owners widely praise the Seiko Presage Cocktail Time for its visually stunning dials and excellent value, with the 4Rxx movement keeping good time, ranging from -5/+5 seconds per day. The watch is appreciated for its size and design, though some owners note the absence of a sapphire crystal and occasionally question the price, feeling it competes with significantly more expensive timepieces. One reviewer specifically praised the Mockingbird dial, indices, hands, and crown, but found the case design uninspired. Overall, owners and reviewers rate the Seiko Presage Cocktail Time highly for its striking dial aesthetics and strong value proposition.

From video reviewers

The dial finishing is exceptional for its price point. Quality control issues are a recurring problem with Seiko.

At a glance

10 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Neolux Day Date – Dark Silver Blue42.5mm
Presage Cocktail Time40.5mm
Power Reserve
Neolux Day Date – Dark Silver Blue40h
Presage Cocktail Time41h
Water Resistance
Neolux Day Date – Dark Silver Blue50m
Presage Cocktail Time50m
MSRP
Neolux Day Date – Dark Silver Blue$499
Presage Cocktail Time$475

Full specifications

Case

3 specs
Category
Dress
Diameter
42.5mm
40.5mm
Thickness
12mm
11.8mm

Crystal & Dial

3 specs
Crystal
Sapphire
Hardlex
Crystal Shape
Flat
Box
Dial Color
Black

Movement

3 specs
Caliber
Miyota 8205
4R35
Power Reserve
40h
41h
Jewels
25
23

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$499
$475
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