Lilienthal Berlin Neolux Skeleton – Silver GreyvsSeiko Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Arita Porcelain Dial

Owners widely praise Lilienthal Berlin for its award-winning minimalist design and value, particularly when purchased at a discount, with one owner noting the Meteorite IV model looks as good as a much more expensive watch. Some owners appreciate the blue and orange sunburst dial and good finishing, while others find the dial and hands machine-stamped without polished edges and the leather quality basic. Owners report sharp case edges causing skin irritation and difficult-to-remove strap pins, with one finding it unwearable due to discomfort, though another enjoyed the clean design and good lume. The brand's minimalist aesthetic is praised, but some models lack lume, and some owners have experienced significant shipping delays and unresponsive customer support, with some describing the company as potentially fraudulent. Overall, owners rate Lilienthal Berlin highly for its Bauhaus-inspired design and perceived value, though concerns about quality and customer service are noted.

Owners and reviewers widely praise the Seiko Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Arita Porcelain Dial for its unique, smooth, and lustrous porcelain dial, a testament to meticulous Japanese craftsmanship, with some noting its depth and subtle color variations. The red "XII" and recessed sub-dials on certain variants are highlighted as distinctive design elements. However, multiple sources flag the case thickness, ranging from 12.4mm to 14.1mm, as substantial for a dress watch, and one reviewer criticizes painted hands instead of heat-blued ones. Accuracy figures are not consistently reported across sources, with one owner noting figures around +1/+2 seconds per day while another mentions approximately -6 seconds per day. On balance, owners and reviewers rate the Seiko Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Arita Porcelain Dial highly for its exceptional dial artistry and craftsmanship at its price point.