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Lilienthal Berlin Neolux Skeleton – Dark GreyvsEcho/Neutra Rivanera

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Lilienthal Berlin Neolux Skeleton – Dark Grey

Owners widely praise Lilienthal Berlin for its award-winning minimalist design and value, particularly when purchased at a discount, with one owner noting the Meteorite IV model looks as good as a much more expensive watch. Some owners appreciate the blue and orange sunburst dial and good finishing, while others find the dial and hands machine-stamped without polished edges and the leather quality basic. Owners report sharp case edges causing skin irritation and difficult-to-remove strap pins, with one finding it unwearable due to discomfort, though another enjoyed the clean design and good lume. The brand's minimalist aesthetic is praised, but some models lack lume, and some owners have experienced significant shipping delays and unresponsive customer support, with some describing the company as potentially fraudulent. Overall, owners rate Lilienthal Berlin highly for its Bauhaus-inspired design and perceived value, though concerns about quality and customer service are noted.

Echo/Neutra Rivanera

The Echo/Neutra Rivanera is widely praised for its remarkably thin 5.9mm Grade 5 titanium case, which contributes to its exceptional lightness and wearability, striking a balance between dress and everyday style. Reviewers and owners highlight its Art Deco-inspired design and the respected ETA 7001 manual-wind movement for its slimness and longevity. Impressive packaging and accessories are also noted as significant value adds for its price point. Some reviewers point out the lack of quick-release straps and the bead-blasted finish, with one owner expressing concern over the case's scratch resistance. The non-hacking movement is also a point of note for some enthusiasts. Overall, owners and reviewers highly regard the Echo/Neutra Rivanera for its exceptionally thin and lightweight titanium case and unique Art Deco aesthetic at an affordable price.

From video reviewers

The Rivanera's Grade 5 titanium case is a key selling point. Reviewers did not agree on whether the watch leans more towards a tool watch or a traditional dress watch.

At a glance

14 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Neolux Skeleton – Dark Grey42mm
Rivanera40mm
Power Reserve
Neolux Skeleton – Dark Grey42h
Rivanera42hh
Water Resistance
Neolux Skeleton – Dark Grey100m
Rivanera30m
MSRP
Neolux Skeleton – Dark Grey$679
Rivanera$1,810

Full specifications

Case

6 specs
Diameter
42mm
40mm
Thickness
12mm
5.5mm
Lug-to-Lug
46mm
40mm
Material
Stainless Steel
Titanium Grade 5 (sandblasted)
Finish
Brushed and polished
Polished + Sandblasted
Water Resistance
100m
30m

Crystal & Dial

1 specs
Dial Color
Black

Movement

6 specs
Caliber
Swiss ETA 7001 elaboré
Type
Automatic
Manual
Beat Rate
28,800 vph
21,600 vph
Power Reserve
42h
42hh
Jewels
25
17
Complications
None
Moonphase, Date

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$679
$1,810
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