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Lilienthal Berlin Neolux Skeleton – Dark GreyvsSeiko Presage Style60's

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Neolux Skeleton – Dark Grey
Lilienthal BerlinNeolux Skeleton – Dark Grey
MSRP $679
Presage Style60's
SeikoPresage Style60's
MSRP $715
What people say

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Lilienthal Berlin Neolux Skeleton – Dark Grey

Owners widely praise Lilienthal Berlin for its award-winning minimalist design and value, particularly when purchased at a discount, with one owner noting the Meteorite IV model looks as good as a much more expensive watch. Some owners appreciate the blue and orange sunburst dial and good finishing, while others find the dial and hands machine-stamped without polished edges and the leather quality basic. Owners report sharp case edges causing skin irritation and difficult-to-remove strap pins, with one finding it unwearable due to discomfort, though another enjoyed the clean design and good lume. The brand's minimalist aesthetic is praised, but some models lack lume, and some owners have experienced significant shipping delays and unresponsive customer support, with some describing the company as potentially fraudulent. Overall, owners rate Lilienthal Berlin highly for its Bauhaus-inspired design and perceived value, though concerns about quality and customer service are noted.

Seiko Presage Style60's

The Seiko Presage Style60's collection is praised for its charming vintage aesthetic, with reviewers highlighting the box-shaped crystals, faceted indexes, and applied details. The smaller 39.5mm case size of the SRPL07 and SRPL09 models is noted as particularly comfortable, alongside a new bracelet. Prices range from €490 to €670, with the 4R35 and 4R34 movements offering a 41-hour power reserve. However, the claimed accuracy of +45/-35 seconds per day for the 4R35 movement is flagged as a potential drawback for some. The fixed 60-minute bezel is described as a stylistic element rather than a functional one.

At a glance

12 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Neolux Skeleton – Dark Grey42mm
Presage Style60's39.5mm
Power Reserve
Neolux Skeleton – Dark Grey42h
Presage Style60's41h
Water Resistance
Neolux Skeleton – Dark Grey100m
Presage Style60's50m
MSRP
Neolux Skeleton – Dark Grey$679
Presage Style60's$715

Full specifications

Case

4 specs
Category
Dress
Diameter
42mm
39.5mm
Lug-to-Lug
46mm
46.2mm
Water Resistance
100m
50m

Crystal & Dial

4 specs
Crystal
Sapphire
Hardlex
Crystal Shape
Flat
Box
Dial Color
Black
Lume
None
LumiBrite on hands and index(es)

Movement

3 specs
Caliber
4R72
Power Reserve
42h
41h
Jewels
25
24

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$679
$715
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