Lorier AstravsPagani Design PD-1723

The Lorier Astra is praised for its outstanding details and design language, hitting a "dressy sports watch" vibe with a beautiful sector dial and lume. Owners note its versatile, do-it-all design with classic proportions and refined details like beveled markers, making it suitable for both formal and casual wear. The watch wears slightly larger than its 36mm case suggests, closer to 38mm, with lugs that taper and curve downward to fit well on smaller wrists. However, the bracelet feels a bit light, some screws are difficult to remove, and the Miyota movement can gain around 8 seconds in 12 hours with potentially offset date numerals. On balance, owners rate the Lorier Astra highly for its dressy sports watch aesthetic and refined details at its price point.

Pagani Design PD-1723 is praised for its attractive dial, sapphire crystal, and overall finishing, with owners appreciating its vintage-inspired aesthetics and minimalist logo. The watch is noted to wear larger than its 37mm case size due to a thin bezel and 20mm lugs, feeling closer to 39mm on a 7-inch wrist. Lume is a point of contention, with some finding it surprisingly good on the indices and 12 o'clock position, while others describe it as poor, particularly on the hands. The bracelet is widely considered to be of low quality, though some find it comfortable with a nice taper, and many owners prefer using aftermarket straps. Discrepancies between product listings and received watches, particularly regarding movement branding and the PT5000 movement's potential winding issues and rotor rattle, have been noted. The V2 update features an exhibition caseback and a clasp swap, which some owners prefer over the V1, while others favor the V1's hands and dial proportions.