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Lorier AstravsSeiko Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Enamel Dial

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Astra
LorierAstra
MSRP $599

At a glance

13 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Astra36mm
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Enamel Dial40.2mm
Power Reserve
Astra40h
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Enamel Dial72h
Water Resistance
Astra50m
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Enamel Dial100m
MSRP
Astra$599
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Enamel Dial$1,400

Full specifications

Case

6 specs
Category
Field
Dress
Diameter
36mm
40.2mm
Thickness
12.1mm
Lug-to-Lug
48mm
Lug Width
18mm
20mm
Water Resistance
50m
100m

Crystal & Dial

3 specs
Crystal Shape
Flat
Curved
AR Coating
Inner
Anti-reflective coating on inner surface
Dial Color
Standard
Black

Movement

3 specs
Caliber
6R5H
Power Reserve
40h
72h
Jewels
25
24

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$599
$1,400

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What people say

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Lorier Astra

The Lorier Astra is praised for its outstanding details and design language, hitting a "dressy sports watch" vibe with a beautiful sector dial and lume. Owners note its versatile, do-it-all design with classic proportions and refined details like beveled markers, making it suitable for both formal and casual wear. The watch wears slightly larger than its 36mm case suggests, closer to 38mm, with lugs that taper and curve downward to fit well on smaller wrists. However, the bracelet feels a bit light, some screws are difficult to remove, and the Miyota movement can gain around 8 seconds in 12 hours with potentially offset date numerals. On balance, owners rate the Lorier Astra highly for its dressy sports watch aesthetic and refined details at its price point.

Seiko Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Enamel Dial

Owners and reviewers widely praise the Seiko Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Enamel Dial for its high-quality, handcrafted enamel dials, with specific commendations for the depth and subtle gloss of urushi lacquer and the excellent legibility of minimalistic markers and contrasting hands. The watches are frequently cited as offering significant value, with one reviewer noting the SPB163 as a great value at €1,300, and another highlighting the series' impressive 100M water resistance and Japanese design inspiration at $1,300 USD. However, the 12.4mm to 12.8mm thickness is noted by multiple sources as a potential area for improvement, with a preference for under 12mm, and one owner dislikes the date window. Accuracy figures for the 6R27 movement range from -15 to +25 seconds per day, and its power reserve is closer to 35-40 hours than the advertised 45 hours.

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