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Pagani Design PD-1718vsSugess Tourbillon Master SU8001

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PD-1718
Pagani DesignPD-1718
MSRP $128
Tourbillon Master SU8001
SugessTourbillon Master SU8001
MSRP $999
What people say

Owners + reviewers, side by side

Synthesized for each watch independently from owner discussions, enthusiast forums, written reviews, and video reviewers.

Pagani Design PD-1718

Pagani Design PD-1718 owners widely praise its Tudor-style chronograph design and the Seiko VK64 meca-quartz movement for offering sweeping seconds with quartz accuracy. The full stainless steel build and water resistance are noted as strong points for an everyday watch, with some finding the bracelet and clasp superior to typical offerings and the female end links an improvement for smaller wrists. One owner appreciates the black dial for legibility, while another enjoys the white dial's aesthetic on a racing strap. However, the lack of an AR coating on the crystal is a recurring observation, particularly when photographing the watch, and one owner noted the lume on the hands does not match the dial. The chronograph hand may not reset perfectly to 12 due to the meca-quartz movement, and one owner reported a functional issue with the chronograph engagement.

From video reviewers

The case finishing with brushed surfaces and polished accents is a strength. The bezel alignment was a point of contention. Reviewers disagreed on the movement, with some noting a Seiko VK64 mecha-quartz and others a Miyota 8315.

Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8001

Owners widely praise the Sugess Tourbillon Master for its accessible tourbillon complication and value, with one owner noting an initial accuracy of +2 seconds per day. However, community feedback flags a winding stem that feels flimsy and straps that are considered poor, featuring a comically large buckle. Some owners report a degradation in accuracy to around -20 seconds per day after a month, and the steel case edges are described as rounded with the material proving soft and prone to scratching. On balance, owners view the Sugess Tourbillon Master as a remarkable value for its tourbillon feature, despite concerns regarding strap quality and long-term material durability.

At a glance

12 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
PD-171839.5mm
Tourbillon Master SU800141mm
Power Reserve
PD-171840h
Tourbillon Master SU800140h
Water Resistance
PD-1718100m
Tourbillon Master SU800150m
MSRP
PD-1718$128
Tourbillon Master SU8001$999

Full specifications

Case

6 specs
Diameter
39.5mm
41mm
Thickness
13mm
10mm
Lug Width
20mm
10mm
Material
Stainless Steel
Stainless Steel/Rose Gold
Water Resistance
100m
50m
Caseback
Solid
Display

Crystal & Dial

1 specs
AR Coating
Yes
Inner

Movement

4 specs
Caliber
Seiko VK64 (Meca-Quartz)
Seagull ST8000
Type
Quartz
Manual
Beat Rate
28,800 vph
3 vph
Complications
None
GMT, Moonphase, Date, Power reserve indicator

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$128
$999
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