Phoibos KrakenvsSeestern S450 Ocean Star

Owners widely praise the Phoibos Kraken for its excellent lume, dial production, and the thinness of its Miyota 9015 movement, all at a sub-$500 price point. Specific positive mentions include the case and bracelet finishing, with one owner calling the bracelet excellent. The 40mm size is considered ideal by some. However, some owners find the crown guard execution awkward, and the hands have been described as resembling "veiny penises." There is also a concern that the dial's appearance in natural light might not achieve the desired color-shifting, smoky metallic effect. Overall, owners rate the Phoibos Kraken highly for its impressive dial and finishing at the price.

Owners widely praise the Seestern S450 Ocean Star's Yachtmaster-style case and flawless bracelet finishing, with one owner noting the ST2130 movement keeps good time. The bezel action is described as having individual notches but feeling like a friction bezel, while another owner flags the bezel and crown action as smooth with perfect alignment. Lume is a point of contention, with one source describing it as a nice cool blue with ice-white application, while others note it as weak or not matching Prospex standards, despite using BGW-9. The watch is considered a "big boy" ideal for larger wrists (19cm+), potentially too large for 17cm wrists due to its size and non-tapering bracelet. Overall, owners rate the Seestern S450 Ocean Star highly for its build quality and finishing at the price point, despite some reservations about its size and lume intensity.