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Seiko Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer DialvsSugess Tourbillon Master SU8001

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At a glance

17 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer Dial40.2mm
Tourbillon Master SU800141mm
Power Reserve
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer Dial72h
Tourbillon Master SU800140h
Water Resistance
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer Dial100m
Tourbillon Master SU800150m
MSRP
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer Dial$1,650
Tourbillon Master SU8001$999

Full specifications

Case

8 specs
Category
Dress
Chronograph
Diameter
40.2mm
41mm
Thickness
12.1mm
10mm
Lug-to-Lug
48mm
46mm
Lug Width
20mm
10mm
Material
Stainless Steel
Stainless Steel/Rose Gold
Water Resistance
100m
50m
Caseback
Solid
Display

Crystal & Dial

2 specs
Crystal Shape
Curved
Flat
AR Coating
Anti-reflective coating on inner surface
Inner

Movement

6 specs
Caliber
6R5H
Seagull ST8000
Type
Automatic
Manual
Beat Rate
28,800 vph
3 vph
Power Reserve
72h
40h
Jewels
24
25
Complications
None
GMT, Moonphase, Date, Power reserve indicator

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$1,650
$999

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What people say

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Seiko Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer Dial

Owners and reviewers widely praise the Seiko Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer Dial for its stunning, inky black urushi lacquer dial, noting its deep visual depth and soft sheen with gold accents or Roman numerals. The 40.2mm stainless steel case, rated for 100 meters of water resistance, is considered classy and elegant, with one owner appreciating the interplay of light on the dial's textured hands and glossy second hand. The 72-hour power reserve of the 6R5H or 6R54 movement is a consistent highlight, and the accessible price point is frequently mentioned. Some owners note visible pores on the white logo and Roman numerals, and visible scratches from polishing in bright light, while one reviewer flags the GMT function's dial setting as slightly wonky. Accuracy is rated at +25 to -15 seconds per day by multiple sources.

Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8001

Owners widely praise the Sugess Tourbillon Master for its accessible tourbillon complication and value, with one owner noting an initial accuracy of +2 seconds per day. However, community feedback flags a winding stem that feels flimsy and straps that are considered poor, featuring a comically large buckle. Some owners report a degradation in accuracy to around -20 seconds per day after a month, and the steel case edges are described as rounded with the material proving soft and prone to scratching. On balance, owners view the Sugess Tourbillon Master as a remarkable value for its tourbillon feature, despite concerns regarding strap quality and long-term material durability.

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