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Seiko Presage Inspired by Japanese GardensvsSugess Tourbillon Master SU8001

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Tourbillon Master SU8001
SugessTourbillon Master SU8001
MSRP $999
What people say

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Seiko Presage Inspired by Japanese Gardens

Owners widely praise the Seiko Presage Inspired by Japanese Gardens for its beautiful dial designs, with one owner noting the SSA464 was love at first sight and another calling the SSA421J1 a beautiful first dress watch. The watch is frequently described as a serious bang-for-your-buck limited edition offering good build quality for daily wear, though some owners have noted the appearance of tiny scratches on the bezel and that the bracelet can be initially scratchy. One owner found the watch "truly stunning in person" and "tastefully done," while another found its fit surprisingly natural despite its size. Overall, owners rate the Seiko Presage Inspired by Japanese Gardens highly for its stunning aesthetics and value.

Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8001

Owners widely praise the Sugess Tourbillon Master for its accessible tourbillon complication and value, with one owner noting an initial accuracy of +2 seconds per day. However, community feedback flags a winding stem that feels flimsy and straps that are considered poor, featuring a comically large buckle. Some owners report a degradation in accuracy to around -20 seconds per day after a month, and the steel case edges are described as rounded with the material proving soft and prone to scratching. On balance, owners view the Sugess Tourbillon Master as a remarkable value for its tourbillon feature, despite concerns regarding strap quality and long-term material durability.

At a glance

16 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Presage Inspired by Japanese Gardens41.8mm
Tourbillon Master SU800141mm
Power Reserve
Presage Inspired by Japanese Gardens41h
Tourbillon Master SU800140h
Water Resistance
Presage Inspired by Japanese Gardens
Tourbillon Master SU800150m
MSRP
Presage Inspired by Japanese Gardens$595
Tourbillon Master SU8001$999

Full specifications

Case

8 specs
Category
Dress
Chronograph
Diameter
41.8mm
41mm
Thickness
12.5mm
10mm
Lug-to-Lug
48.4mm
46mm
Lug Width
20mm
10mm
Material
Stainless Steel
Stainless Steel/Rose Gold
Water Resistance
Splash Resistant
50m
Caseback
Solid
Display

Crystal & Dial

1 specs
Crystal Shape
Curved
Flat

Movement

6 specs
Caliber
4R39
Seagull ST8000
Type
Automatic
Manual
Beat Rate
28,800 vph
3 vph
Power Reserve
41h
40h
Jewels
24
25
Complications
None
GMT, Moonphase, Date, Power reserve indicator

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$595
$999
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