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Studio Underd0g Guacamole (Gen3)vsSugess Tourbillon Master S454

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Guacamole (Gen3)
Studio Underd0gGuacamole (Gen3)
MSRP $550
Tourbillon Master S454
SugessTourbillon Master S454
MSRP $999

At a glance

12 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Guacamole (Gen3)38.5mm
Tourbillon Master S45441mm
Power Reserve
Guacamole (Gen3)40h
Tourbillon Master S45440h
Water Resistance
Guacamole (Gen3)
Tourbillon Master S4545m
MSRP
Guacamole (Gen3)$550
Tourbillon Master S454$999

Full specifications

Case

7 specs
Diameter
38.5mm
41mm
Thickness
8.9mm
Lug-to-Lug
44.9mm
Lug Width
20mm
Material
Stainless Steel
Stainless Steel/Rose Gold
Water Resistance
5m
Caseback
Solid
Display

Crystal & Dial

1 specs
Dial Color
Open
Black

Movement

3 specs
Caliber
ST8000
Type
Automatic
Manual
Beat Rate
28,800 vph
3 vph

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$550
$999

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What people say

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Studio Underd0g Guacamole (Gen3)

Owners widely praise the Studio Underd0g Guacamole (Gen3) for its fun, cheerful, and unusual design with great colors, and one owner found its actual wrist presence perfect. Some owners, however, find the dial printing tacky and the overall design looking cheap, while others feel it is a bit pricey for what is offered. The pushers lack crispness, and the crystal is very reflective and domed too much at the edges. One owner expresses concern that it uses a Seagull ST91-B movement, known for a high failure rate. On balance, owners are split on the value proposition of the Studio Underd0g Guacamole (Gen3) at its current price point, with some appreciating its unique aesthetic and others finding the design and movement choices underwhelming.

Sugess Tourbillon Master S454

Owners widely praise the Sugess Tourbillon Master S454 for its attractive dial finishing, sharp case edges, and the visual appeal of its genuine tourbillon, especially considering its price point. Specific strengths highlighted include a delicate 38mm size with 11.5mm thickness and a crisp winding feel. However, multiple owners note accuracy issues, with figures ranging from +6 to +11 seconds per day and one report of -12 seconds per day. Concerns are also raised about the movement's finishing upon close inspection, the lack of internal anti-reflective coating causing reflections, a small crown that makes winding cumbersome, and potential long-term durability and serviceability challenges. The 24-hour complication is not independently adjustable, and water resistance is limited to 50m. Overall, owners rate the Sugess Tourbillon Master S454 highly for its impressive tourbillon and finishing at the price, despite some noted accuracy and finishing caveats.

From video reviewers

The value proposition of a functional tourbillon movement under $600 is a significant strength. Reviewers noted issues with the bracelet and wearability.

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