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Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8002vsHelgray Superfast Automatic - Silver Panda

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Tourbillon Master SU8002
SugessTourbillon Master SU8002
MSRP $1,099
Superfast Automatic - Silver Panda
HelgraySuperfast Automatic - Silver Panda
MSRP $799
What people say

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Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8002

Owners widely praise the Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8002 for offering a genuine tourbillon complication at an accessible price point, making a high-end complication attainable. The dial is described as beautiful, evoking a Moser aesthetic, and legibility is considered superb by one owner. However, concerns exist regarding the long-term durability and serviceability of the Chinese-made Seagull ST8230 movement, with some questioning its longevity for the price. The winding stem is noted as feeling flimsy, and the strap and buckle are considered chunky. Quality control can be inconsistent, though customer service is reportedly excellent. Overall, owners rate the Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8002 highly for providing an impressive tourbillon complication at an unmatched price.

From video reviewers

The value proposition of a functioning tourbillon at this price point is the strongest cited strength. Reviewers imply potential compromises in other areas to achieve this low cost.

Helgray Superfast Automatic - Silver Panda

The Helgray Superfast Automatic - Silver Panda is praised for its attractive, timeless panda aesthetic and value, featuring a reliable Seiko VK64 mecaquartz movement and sapphire crystal. However, its wearability is described as bulky and boxy, the lume is disappointing, lasting only 5-10 minutes, and the chronograph pusher action is slightly stiff. On balance, owners appreciate the Helgray Superfast Automatic - Silver Panda for its appealing panda dial and value proposition.

At a glance

9 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Tourbillon Master SU800241mm
Superfast Automatic - Silver Panda40mm
Power Reserve
Tourbillon Master SU800240h
Superfast Automatic - Silver Panda40h
Water Resistance
Tourbillon Master SU800250m
Superfast Automatic - Silver Panda100m
MSRP
Tourbillon Master SU8002$1,099
Superfast Automatic - Silver Panda$799

Full specifications

Case

5 specs
Diameter
41mm
40mm
Lug Width
12mm
20mm
Material
Stainless Steel/Rose Gold
Stainless Steel
Water Resistance
50m
100m
Caseback
Display
Solid

Movement

3 specs
Caliber
Seagull ST8230
Beat Rate
3 vph
28,800 vph
Complications
GMT, Chronograph, Moonphase, Date
None

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$1,099
$799
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