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Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8230vsHelgray Superfast Automatic - Silver Panda

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Tourbillon Master SU8230
SugessTourbillon Master SU8230
MSRP $1,399
Superfast Automatic - Silver Panda
HelgraySuperfast Automatic - Silver Panda
MSRP $799
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Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8230

Owners widely praise the Sugess Tourbillon Master for its stunning enamel dial and impressive finishing at its price point. Accuracy figures vary, with one owner reporting -12s/day and another +6 to +11s/day. Caveats include a cumbersome winding crown, limited 50m water resistance, a 21mm lug width, and a non-hacking movement, with one owner noting a power reserve around two days and noticeable resistance when winding. On balance, owners rate the Sugess Tourbillon Master highly for its visually striking dial and finishing, which significantly elevates its perceived value.

Helgray Superfast Automatic - Silver Panda

The Helgray Superfast Automatic - Silver Panda is praised for its attractive, timeless panda aesthetic and value, featuring a reliable Seiko VK64 mecaquartz movement and sapphire crystal. However, its wearability is described as bulky and boxy, the lume is disappointing, lasting only 5-10 minutes, and the chronograph pusher action is slightly stiff. On balance, owners appreciate the Helgray Superfast Automatic - Silver Panda for its appealing panda dial and value proposition.

At a glance

10 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Tourbillon Master SU823041mm
Superfast Automatic - Silver Panda40mm
Power Reserve
Tourbillon Master SU823040h
Superfast Automatic - Silver Panda40h
Water Resistance
Tourbillon Master SU823050m
Superfast Automatic - Silver Panda100m
MSRP
Tourbillon Master SU8230$1,399
Superfast Automatic - Silver Panda$799

Full specifications

Case

6 specs
Diameter
41mm
40mm
Thickness
11mm
12mm
Lug Width
11mm
20mm
Material
Yellow Gold/Rose Gold/Bronze
Stainless Steel
Water Resistance
50m
100m
Caseback
Display
Solid

Movement

3 specs
Caliber
Seagull ST8230
Beat Rate
3 vph
28,800 vph
Complications
GMT, Moonphase, Date
None

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$1,399
$799
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