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Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8230vsVario 1945 D12 Bronze Fumé

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Tourbillon Master SU8230
SugessTourbillon Master SU8230
MSRP $1,399
1945 D12 Bronze Fumé
Vario1945 D12 Bronze Fumé
MSRP $428

At a glance

13 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Tourbillon Master SU823041mm
1945 D12 Bronze Fumé37mm
Power Reserve
Tourbillon Master SU823040h
1945 D12 Bronze Fumé40h
Water Resistance
Tourbillon Master SU823050m
1945 D12 Bronze Fumé100m
MSRP
Tourbillon Master SU8230$1,399
1945 D12 Bronze Fumé$428

Full specifications

Case

8 specs
Category
Chronograph
Field
Diameter
41mm
37mm
Thickness
11mm
10.5mm
Lug-to-Lug
46mm
45mm
Lug Width
11mm
18mm
Material
Yellow Gold/Rose Gold/Bronze
316L Stainless Steel
Water Resistance
50m
100m
Caseback
Display
Solid

Crystal & Dial

1 specs
Dial Color
Black
Grey

Movement

3 specs
Caliber
Seagull ST8230
Miyota 82s5
Beat Rate
3 vph
28,800 vph
Complications
GMT, Moonphase, Date
None

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$1,399
$428

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What people say

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Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8230

Owners widely praise the Sugess Tourbillon Master for its stunning enamel dial and impressive finishing at its price point. Accuracy figures vary, with one owner reporting -12s/day and another +6 to +11s/day. Caveats include a cumbersome winding crown, limited 50m water resistance, a 21mm lug width, and a non-hacking movement, with one owner noting a power reserve around two days and noticeable resistance when winding. On balance, owners rate the Sugess Tourbillon Master highly for its visually striking dial and finishing, which significantly elevates its perceived value.

Vario 1945 D12 Bronze Fumé

Owners widely appreciate the Vario 1945 D12 Bronze Fumé for its historical representation and the use of two lume colors. The blended branding is considered tasteful by some, though one owner expressed indecision about the logo and crown position. The 37mm bronze case is designed to develop a patina, as are the bronze hands, complementing the gradient matte black dial with faux-patina lume. The Miyota 82S5 automatic movement, however, is noted by owners to be noisy and rattly, with one owner reporting +7 seconds per day accuracy and a 40-hour power reserve. Overall, owners rate the Vario 1945 D12 Bronze Fumé positively for its aesthetic appeal and historical narrative, despite the noisy movement.

From video reviewers

The bronze case developing a patina is a key aesthetic feature. Reviewers found the value proposition to be good at $428 USD.

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