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Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8230vsLongines LONGINES PILOT MAJETEK PIONEER EDITION

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Tourbillon Master SU8230
SugessTourbillon Master SU8230
MSRP $1,399
LONGINES PILOT MAJETEK PIONEER EDITION
LonginesLONGINES PILOT MAJETEK PIONEER EDITION
MSRP $5,650

At a glance

12 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Tourbillon Master SU823041mm
LONGINES PILOT MAJETEK PIONEER EDITION43mm
Power Reserve
Tourbillon Master SU823040h
LONGINES PILOT MAJETEK PIONEER EDITION40h
Water Resistance
Tourbillon Master SU823050m
LONGINES PILOT MAJETEK PIONEER EDITION100m
MSRP
Tourbillon Master SU8230$1,399
LONGINES PILOT MAJETEK PIONEER EDITION$5,650

Full specifications

Case

8 specs
Category
Chronograph
Pilot
Diameter
41mm
43mm
Thickness
11mm
13.3mm
Lug-to-Lug
46mm
51.4mm
Lug Width
11mm
22mm
Material
Yellow Gold/Rose Gold/Bronze
Stainless Steel
Water Resistance
50m
100m
Caseback
Display
Solid

Movement

3 specs
Caliber
Seagull ST8230
L893.6
Beat Rate
3 vph
28,800 vph
Complications
GMT, Moonphase, Date
None

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$1,399
$5,650

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What people say

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Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8230

Owners widely praise the Sugess Tourbillon Master for its stunning enamel dial and impressive finishing at its price point. Accuracy figures vary, with one owner reporting -12s/day and another +6 to +11s/day. Caveats include a cumbersome winding crown, limited 50m water resistance, a 21mm lug width, and a non-hacking movement, with one owner noting a power reserve around two days and noticeable resistance when winding. On balance, owners rate the Sugess Tourbillon Master highly for its visually striking dial and finishing, which significantly elevates its perceived value.

LONGINES PILOT MAJETEK PIONEER EDITION

The Longines Pilot Majetek Pioneer Edition is widely praised for its grade 5 titanium construction, robust L893.6 automatic movement with 72-hour power reserve and COSC certification, and appealing vintage aesthetic with robust lume. Owners appreciate its unique, minimalistic, and timeless design, with some finding it more wearable than other large-format watches. The 43mm titanium case is noted for significantly reducing weight, though some reviewers and owners find the large, flat case overhangs smaller wrists or does not hug the wrist well, despite one reviewer finding it wears comfortably due to its cushion shape and flat caseback. The stiff fabric strap is criticized by some owners for giving the watch a "toy look" and requiring a break-in period. The price is considered steep by some, while others find it justified by the chronometer certification, build quality, and horological history.

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