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Atelier Wen Ancestra Launch EditionvsSeiko Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer Dial

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Ancestra Launch Edition
Atelier WenAncestra Launch Edition
MSRP $45,900

At a glance

12 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Ancestra Launch Edition38.5mm
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer Dial40.2mm
Power Reserve
Ancestra Launch Edition40h
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer Dial72h
Water Resistance
Ancestra Launch Edition30m
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer Dial100m
MSRP
Ancestra Launch Edition$45,900
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer Dial$1,650

Full specifications

Case

5 specs
Diameter
38.5mm
40.2mm
Thickness
12.1mm
Lug-to-Lug
48mm
Lug Width
19mm
20mm
Water Resistance
30m
100m

Crystal & Dial

3 specs
Crystal Shape
Flat
Curved
AR Coating
Inner
Anti-reflective coating on inner surface
Dial Color
Chinese caligraphy
Black

Movement

3 specs
Caliber
6R5H
Power Reserve
40h
72h
Jewels
25
24

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$45,900
$1,650

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Atelier Wen Ancestra Launch Edition

The Atelier Wen Ancestra Launch Edition is widely praised for its unique hand-hammered grand feu enamel dial, featuring Chinese arts and crafts and micro-etched poetry on its custom French movement. Owners and reviewers highlight the dial's dramatic gradient and the flush-set baguette diamond hour markers, all housed in a compact 38mm steel case. The movement is noted as superior to standard ETA or Sellita options. Some owners feel a seconds hand would be a welcome addition, and the $5,850 price point is considered a significant step up, with one commenter finding the brand overpriced. Overall, owners and reviewers rate the Atelier Wen Ancestra Launch Edition highly for its exceptional dial artistry and unique movement at its price.

Seiko Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer Dial

Owners and reviewers widely praise the Seiko Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer Dial for its stunning, inky black urushi lacquer dial, noting its deep visual depth and soft sheen with gold accents or Roman numerals. The 40.2mm stainless steel case, rated for 100 meters of water resistance, is considered classy and elegant, with one owner appreciating the interplay of light on the dial's textured hands and glossy second hand. The 72-hour power reserve of the 6R5H or 6R54 movement is a consistent highlight, and the accessible price point is frequently mentioned. Some owners note visible pores on the white logo and Roman numerals, and visible scratches from polishing in bright light, while one reviewer flags the GMT function's dial setting as slightly wonky. Accuracy is rated at +25 to -15 seconds per day by multiple sources.

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