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Atelier Wen Ancestra Launch EditionvsSeiko Presage Cocktail Time

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Ancestra Launch Edition
Atelier WenAncestra Launch Edition
MSRP $45,900
Presage Cocktail Time
SeikoPresage Cocktail Time
MSRP $595

At a glance

12 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Ancestra Launch Edition38.5mm
Presage Cocktail Time40.5mm
Power Reserve
Ancestra Launch Edition40h
Presage Cocktail Time41h
Water Resistance
Ancestra Launch Edition30m
Presage Cocktail Time50m
MSRP
Ancestra Launch Edition$45,900
Presage Cocktail Time$595

Full specifications

Case

5 specs
Diameter
38.5mm
40.5mm
Thickness
14.4mm
Lug-to-Lug
47.5mm
Lug Width
19mm
20mm
Water Resistance
30m
50m

Crystal & Dial

3 specs
Crystal
Sapphire
Hardlex
Crystal Shape
Flat
Box
Dial Color
Chinese caligraphy
Black

Movement

3 specs
Caliber
4R57
Power Reserve
40h
41h
Jewels
25
29

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$45,900
$595

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What people say

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Atelier Wen Ancestra Launch Edition

The Atelier Wen Ancestra Launch Edition is widely praised for its unique hand-hammered grand feu enamel dial, featuring Chinese arts and crafts and micro-etched poetry on its custom French movement. Owners and reviewers highlight the dial's dramatic gradient and the flush-set baguette diamond hour markers, all housed in a compact 38mm steel case. The movement is noted as superior to standard ETA or Sellita options. Some owners feel a seconds hand would be a welcome addition, and the $5,850 price point is considered a significant step up, with one commenter finding the brand overpriced. Overall, owners and reviewers rate the Atelier Wen Ancestra Launch Edition highly for its exceptional dial artistry and unique movement at its price.

Seiko Presage Cocktail Time

Seiko Presage Cocktail Time is widely praised for its visually stunning dials and exceptional value, appearing more expensive than its price point. Owners highlight the dial, indices, hands, and crown as particularly well-executed. However, some owners note the absence of a sapphire crystal and the potential for quality control issues. One owner describes the case as large, round, and uninspired. Overall, owners rate the Seiko Presage Cocktail Time highly for its attractive dial designs and strong value proposition.

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