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Atelier Wen Ancestra Launch EditionvsSugess Tourbillon Master SU8004

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Ancestra Launch Edition
Atelier WenAncestra Launch Edition
MSRP $45,900
Tourbillon Master SU8004
SugessTourbillon Master SU8004
MSRP $1,199

At a glance

13 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Ancestra Launch Edition38.5mm
Tourbillon Master SU800441mm
Power Reserve
Ancestra Launch Edition40h
Tourbillon Master SU800440h
Water Resistance
Ancestra Launch Edition30m
Tourbillon Master SU80045m
MSRP
Ancestra Launch Edition$45,900
Tourbillon Master SU8004$1,199

Full specifications

Case

8 specs
Category
Dress
Chronograph
Diameter
38.5mm
41mm
Thickness
10mm
Lug-to-Lug
46mm
Lug Width
19mm
21mm
Material
Stainless Steel
Stainless Steel/Rose Gold
Water Resistance
30m
5m
Caseback
Solid
Display

Crystal & Dial

1 specs
Dial Color
Chinese caligraphy
Black

Movement

3 specs
Caliber
Seagull ST8230
Beat Rate
28,800 vph
3 vph
Complications
None
GMT, Moonphase, Day-date, Date

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$45,900
$1,199

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What people say

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Atelier Wen Ancestra Launch Edition

The Atelier Wen Ancestra Launch Edition is widely praised for its unique hand-hammered grand feu enamel dial, featuring Chinese arts and crafts and micro-etched poetry on its custom French movement. Owners and reviewers highlight the dial's dramatic gradient and the flush-set baguette diamond hour markers, all housed in a compact 38mm steel case. The movement is noted as superior to standard ETA or Sellita options. Some owners feel a seconds hand would be a welcome addition, and the $5,850 price point is considered a significant step up, with one commenter finding the brand overpriced. Overall, owners and reviewers rate the Atelier Wen Ancestra Launch Edition highly for its exceptional dial artistry and unique movement at its price.

Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8004

The tourbillon complication at this price point is a significant strength. Reviewers did not reach a consensus on any weaknesses.

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