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Glycine Combat Sub Box CeramicvsTudor Black Bay 58 Bronze

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Combat Sub Box Ceramic
GlycineCombat Sub Box Ceramic
MSRP $1,800
Black Bay 58 Bronze
TudorBlack Bay 58 Bronze
MSRP $5,850

At a glance

19 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Combat Sub Box Ceramic41mm
Black Bay 58 Bronze39mm
Power Reserve
Combat Sub Box Ceramic38h
Black Bay 58 Bronze70h
Water Resistance
Combat Sub Box Ceramic200m
Black Bay 58 Bronze200m
MSRP
Combat Sub Box Ceramic$1,800
Black Bay 58 Bronze$5,850

Full specifications

Case

6 specs
Diameter
41mm
39mm
Thickness
12.75mm
11.9mm
Lug-to-Lug
46mm
Material
Ceramic
Bronze
Finish
Brushed + Satin
Caseback
Engraved

Crystal & Dial

5 specs
Crystal Shape
AR Coating
Dial Color
Grey
Black
Indices
Applied
Lume
Luminous
None

Movement

7 specs
Caliber
SW200-1
MT5400
Beat Rate
28,800 vph
0 vph
Power Reserve
38h
70h
Jewels
26
0
Hacking
Yes
No
Hand-winding
Yes
No
Complications
Date
None

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$1,800
$5,850

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What people say

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Glycine Combat Sub Box Ceramic

Owners widely praise the Glycine Combat Sub Box Ceramic for its exceptional thinness at 10.4mm for a 42mm diver, perfect proportions for small wrists, and unique, non-homage aesthetic, with some considering it the best dive watch under $400 due to its superior finishing and value. The case shape, dimensions, and drilled lugs are also highlighted as positives, and the dial is legible with good lume on the hands. However, reviewers and owners consistently flag sub-par lume on the markers that fades quickly, and an inconsistent power reserve. Some owners report the stock strap or bracelet is subpar, and one owner experienced the bezel detaching after a light bump, questioning build quality. Accuracy figures vary, with one owner noting it runs about 2.5 seconds fast per day, while another reports an inconsistent power reserve. On balance, owners rate the Glycine Combat Sub Box Ceramic highly for its thinness, unique design, and value, despite concerns about lume and strap quality.

Tudor Black Bay 58 Bronze

The Tudor Black Bay 58 Bronze is widely praised for its unique, evolving aesthetic driven by its developing bronze patina, which owners describe as an incremental pleasure and a conversation starter. Reviewers highlight its warm, vintage feel, achieved through the aging bronze case, root-beer brown bezel, and rose gold-toned dive scale, complemented by applied Arabic numerals on a 39mm case. The MT5400 movement is noted for its 70-hour power reserve and COSC-certified accuracy, with one owner reporting a net loss of about one second every three days. The bezel action is described as firm and reassuring, tighter than steel Black Bay models. Owners report the watch wears well dressed up or down, and its finishing is favorably compared to higher-end brands. However, some owners note the soft bronze case scratches easily and can cause blueing on the wrist in hot weather.

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