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Hamilton American Classic Spirit of Liberty AutovsSugess Tourbillon Master SU8004

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Tourbillon Master SU8004
SugessTourbillon Master SU8004
MSRP $1,199
What people say

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Hamilton American Classic Spirit of Liberty Auto

Owners widely praise the Hamilton American Classic Spirit of Liberty Auto for its classical design, quality finishing, and refined presence, with its silver sunburst dial and rose gold accents frequently highlighted as beautiful. The H-10 movement offers an 80-hour power reserve, and some find the 42mm case size and 12mm thickness ideal for wearability. However, legibility can be an issue due to thin hands on the reflective dial, and the laser-engraved quote on the strap is a common point of contention, with some finding it detracts from the strap's appearance. Concerns are also raised about its limited versatility for everyday wear due to its dressier style, low water resistance, and lack of crown guards. Overall, owners and reviewers rate the Hamilton American Classic Spirit of Liberty Auto highly for its attractive design and value for money, particularly its movement and finishing.

Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8004

Owners widely praise the Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8004 for its stunning enamel dial, incredible finishing for the price, and the visual appeal of its genuine tourbillon, with some reporting exceptional accuracy of +/- 1 second per day. The Seagull ST8230 movement is considered a reliable automatic tourbillon at an accessible price point, offering a complex complication that functions as intended, though it is not considered world-class compared to Swiss movements. Some owners find the strap and buckle comically large, the winding stem flimsy, and the crown small for winding, while others note the flat, reflective crystal and question long-term durability and serviceability due to its Chinese origin and limited local support. The Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8004 is considered a genuine option at a price comparable to replicas, valued for its aesthetic appeal and the presence of a tourbillon complication.

From video reviewers

The tourbillon complication at this price point is a significant strength. Reviewers did not reach a consensus on any weaknesses.

At a glance

13 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
American Classic Spirit of Liberty Auto42mm
Tourbillon Master SU800441mm
Power Reserve
American Classic Spirit of Liberty Auto80h
Tourbillon Master SU800440h
Water Resistance
American Classic Spirit of Liberty Auto50m
Tourbillon Master SU80045m
MSRP
American Classic Spirit of Liberty Auto$1,195
Tourbillon Master SU8004$1,199

Full specifications

Case

7 specs
Category
Dress
Chronograph
Diameter
42mm
41mm
Thickness
11.4mm
10mm
Lug Width
22mm
21mm
Material
Stainless Steel
Stainless Steel/Rose Gold
Water Resistance
50m
5m
Caseback
Solid
Display

Crystal & Dial

1 specs
Dial Color
Blue
Black

Movement

4 specs
Caliber
H-10
Seagull ST8230
Beat Rate
28,800 vph
3 vph
Power Reserve
80h
40h
Complications
None
GMT, Moonphase, Day-date, Date

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$1,195
$1,199
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