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Lilienthal Berlin Neolux Grey MintvsSeiko Presage Cocktail Time

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Neolux Grey Mint
Lilienthal BerlinNeolux Grey Mint
MSRP $419
Presage Cocktail Time
SeikoPresage Cocktail Time
MSRP $595
What people say

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Lilienthal Berlin Neolux Grey Mint

Owners widely praise Lilienthal Berlin for its award-winning minimalist design and value, particularly when purchased at a discount, with one owner noting the Meteorite IV model looks as good as a much more expensive watch. Some owners appreciate the blue and orange sunburst dial and good finishing, while others find the dial and hands machine-stamped without polished edges and the leather quality basic. Owners report sharp case edges causing skin irritation and difficult-to-remove strap pins, with one finding it unwearable due to discomfort, though another enjoyed the clean design and good lume. The brand's minimalist aesthetic is praised, but some models lack lume, and some owners have experienced significant shipping delays and unresponsive customer support, with some describing the company as potentially fraudulent. Overall, owners rate Lilienthal Berlin highly for its Bauhaus-inspired design and perceived value, though concerns about quality and customer service are noted.

Seiko Presage Cocktail Time

Seiko Presage Cocktail Time is widely praised for its visually stunning dials and exceptional value, appearing more expensive than its price point. Owners highlight the dial, indices, hands, and crown as particularly well-executed. However, some owners note the absence of a sapphire crystal and the potential for quality control issues. One owner describes the case as large, round, and uninspired. Overall, owners rate the Seiko Presage Cocktail Time highly for its attractive dial designs and strong value proposition.

At a glance

11 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Neolux Grey Mint42.5mm
Presage Cocktail Time40.5mm
Power Reserve
Neolux Grey Mint40h
Presage Cocktail Time41h
Water Resistance
Neolux Grey Mint50m
Presage Cocktail Time50m
MSRP
Neolux Grey Mint$419
Presage Cocktail Time$595

Full specifications

Case

4 specs
Category
Dress
Diameter
42.5mm
40.5mm
Thickness
12mm
14.4mm
Lug-to-Lug
46mm
47.5mm

Crystal & Dial

3 specs
Crystal
Sapphire
Hardlex
Crystal Shape
Flat
Box
Dial Color
Black

Movement

3 specs
Caliber
Miyota 8215
4R57
Power Reserve
40h
41h
Jewels
25
29

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$419
$595
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