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Lorier AstravsSugess Tourbillon Master SU8230

The numbers, the dial colors, the calibers — laid out so you can stop flipping between tabs.

Astra
LorierAstra
MSRP $599
Tourbillon Master SU8230
SugessTourbillon Master SU8230
MSRP $1,399

At a glance

12 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Astra36mm
Tourbillon Master SU823041mm
Power Reserve
Astra40h
Tourbillon Master SU823040h
Water Resistance
Astra50m
Tourbillon Master SU823050m
MSRP
Astra$599
Tourbillon Master SU8230$1,399

Full specifications

Case

7 specs
Category
Field
Chronograph
Diameter
36mm
41mm
Thickness
11mm
Lug-to-Lug
46mm
Lug Width
18mm
11mm
Material
Stainless Steel
Yellow Gold/Rose Gold/Bronze
Caseback
Solid
Display

Crystal & Dial

1 specs
Dial Color
Standard
Black

Movement

3 specs
Caliber
Seagull ST8230
Beat Rate
28,800 vph
3 vph
Complications
None
GMT, Moonphase, Date

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$599
$1,399

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What people say

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Lorier Astra

The Lorier Astra is praised for its outstanding details and design language, hitting a "dressy sports watch" vibe with a beautiful sector dial and lume. Owners note its versatile, do-it-all design with classic proportions and refined details like beveled markers, making it suitable for both formal and casual wear. The watch wears slightly larger than its 36mm case suggests, closer to 38mm, with lugs that taper and curve downward to fit well on smaller wrists. However, the bracelet feels a bit light, some screws are difficult to remove, and the Miyota movement can gain around 8 seconds in 12 hours with potentially offset date numerals. On balance, owners rate the Lorier Astra highly for its dressy sports watch aesthetic and refined details at its price point.

Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8230

Owners widely praise the Sugess Tourbillon Master for its stunning enamel dial and impressive finishing at its price point. Accuracy figures vary, with one owner reporting -12s/day and another +6 to +11s/day. Caveats include a cumbersome winding crown, limited 50m water resistance, a 21mm lug width, and a non-hacking movement, with one owner noting a power reserve around two days and noticeable resistance when winding. On balance, owners rate the Sugess Tourbillon Master highly for its visually striking dial and finishing, which significantly elevates its perceived value.

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