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Pagani Design PD-1707vsSugess Tourbillon Master SU8004

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PD-1707
Pagani DesignPD-1707
MSRP $111
Tourbillon Master SU8004
SugessTourbillon Master SU8004
MSRP $1,199
What people say

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Synthesized for each watch independently from owner discussions, enthusiast forums, written reviews, and video reviewers.

Pagani Design PD-1707

Owners widely praise the Pagani Design PD-1707 for its sporty, masculine, and technically elegant appearance, with many finding its size and weight comfortable and well-balanced. The general finish is considered excellent for the price, and the dial is described as awesome and beautiful. However, some owners note slightly sharp edges on the bracelet links, and the bracelet itself is described as poor by one user. The bezel is often misaligned, and the chronograph seconds hand is small and hard to see. Additionally, the tiny screw-down chronograph pushers are difficult to operate, especially on the wrist, and the subdials can hinder quick time reading. Some owners note the end link appears larger than the lugs. Overall, owners rate the Pagani Design PD-1707 highly for its attractive design and good finishing at the price, despite some functional and finishing drawbacks.

Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8004

Owners widely praise the Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8004 for its stunning enamel dial, incredible finishing for the price, and the visual appeal of its genuine tourbillon, with some reporting exceptional accuracy of +/- 1 second per day. The Seagull ST8230 movement is considered a reliable automatic tourbillon at an accessible price point, offering a complex complication that functions as intended, though it is not considered world-class compared to Swiss movements. Some owners find the strap and buckle comically large, the winding stem flimsy, and the crown small for winding, while others note the flat, reflective crystal and question long-term durability and serviceability due to its Chinese origin and limited local support. The Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8004 is considered a genuine option at a price comparable to replicas, valued for its aesthetic appeal and the presence of a tourbillon complication.

From video reviewers

The tourbillon complication at this price point is a significant strength. Reviewers did not reach a consensus on any weaknesses.

At a glance

12 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
PD-170740mm
Tourbillon Master SU800441mm
Power Reserve
PD-170740h
Tourbillon Master SU800440h
Water Resistance
PD-1707100m
Tourbillon Master SU80045m
MSRP
PD-1707$111
Tourbillon Master SU8004$1,199

Full specifications

Case

6 specs
Diameter
40mm
41mm
Thickness
11.2mm
10mm
Lug Width
20mm
21mm
Material
Stainless Steel
Stainless Steel/Rose Gold
Water Resistance
100m
5m
Caseback
Solid
Display

Crystal & Dial

1 specs
AR Coating
Yes
Inner

Movement

4 specs
Caliber
Seiko VK63
Seagull ST8230
Type
Quartz
Automatic
Beat Rate
28,800 vph
3 vph
Complications
None
GMT, Moonphase, Day-date, Date

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$111
$1,199
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