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Pagani Design PD-1782vsSugess Tourbillon Master SU8004

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Pagani Design PD-1782

Owners widely praise the Pagani Design PD-1782 for its excellent value, retro tonneau-case racing chronograph style, and attractive vintage-inspired design, with many highlighting its 39mm bezel diameter, 46mm lug-to-lug, and 12.8mm thickness as contributing to comfortable wearability. The domed sapphire crystal is noted as a positive feature, though some owners point out the lack of significant anti-reflective coating can affect legibility in certain lighting conditions. The VK63 movement is considered unremarkable by some, with a few wishing for an elapsed hour chronograph hand instead of the 24-hour subdial. On balance, owners rate the Pagani Design PD-1782 highly for its original design and impressive finishing for its price point.

Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8004

Owners widely praise the Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8004 for its stunning enamel dial, incredible finishing for the price, and the visual appeal of its genuine tourbillon, with some reporting exceptional accuracy of +/- 1 second per day. The Seagull ST8230 movement is considered a reliable automatic tourbillon at an accessible price point, offering a complex complication that functions as intended, though it is not considered world-class compared to Swiss movements. Some owners find the strap and buckle comically large, the winding stem flimsy, and the crown small for winding, while others note the flat, reflective crystal and question long-term durability and serviceability due to its Chinese origin and limited local support. The Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8004 is considered a genuine option at a price comparable to replicas, valued for its aesthetic appeal and the presence of a tourbillon complication.

From video reviewers

The tourbillon complication at this price point is a significant strength. Reviewers did not reach a consensus on any weaknesses.

At a glance

12 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
PD-178239mm
Tourbillon Master SU800441mm
Power Reserve
PD-178240h
Tourbillon Master SU800440h
Water Resistance
PD-1782100m
Tourbillon Master SU80045m
MSRP
PD-1782$110
Tourbillon Master SU8004$1,199

Full specifications

Case

6 specs
Diameter
39mm
41mm
Thickness
13.5mm
10mm
Lug Width
20mm
21mm
Material
Stainless Steel
Stainless Steel/Rose Gold
Water Resistance
100m
5m
Caseback
Solid
Display

Crystal & Dial

1 specs
AR Coating
Yes
Inner

Movement

4 specs
Caliber
Seiko VK63
Seagull ST8230
Type
Quartz
Automatic
Beat Rate
28,800 vph
3 vph
Complications
None
GMT, Moonphase, Day-date, Date

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$110
$1,199
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