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Atelier Wen Millésime 2025 — Perception 漩 (Xuán)vsTudor Black Bay 58 Bronze

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Millésime 2025 — Perception 漩 (Xuán)
Atelier WenMillésime 2025 — Perception 漩 (Xuán)
MSRP $28,000
Black Bay 58 Bronze
TudorBlack Bay 58 Bronze
MSRP $5,850

At a glance

19 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Millésime 2025 — Perception 漩 (Xuán)38.5mm
Black Bay 58 Bronze39mm
Power Reserve
Millésime 2025 — Perception 漩 (Xuán)40h
Black Bay 58 Bronze70h
Water Resistance
Millésime 2025 — Perception 漩 (Xuán)50m
Black Bay 58 Bronze200m
MSRP
Millésime 2025 — Perception 漩 (Xuán)$28,000
Black Bay 58 Bronze$5,850

Full specifications

Case

9 specs
Category
Dress
Diver
Diameter
38.5mm
39mm
Thickness
11.9mm
Lug-to-Lug
46mm
Lug Width
19mm
20mm
Material
Stainless Steel
Bronze
Finish
Brushed and polished
Brushed + Satin
Water Resistance
50m
200m
Caseback
Solid
Engraved

Crystal & Dial

3 specs
Crystal Shape
Flat
AR Coating
Inner
Dial Color
Xuán
Black

Movement

6 specs
Caliber
MT5400
Beat Rate
28,800 vph
0 vph
Power Reserve
40h
70h
Jewels
25
0
Hacking
Yes
No
Hand-winding
Yes
No

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$28,000
$5,850

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What people say

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Atelier Wen Millésime 2025 — Perception 漩 (Xuán)

Owners widely praise the Atelier Wen Perception's pietersite dial for its captivating color shifts and its thin 9.4mm profile. However, community feedback flags issues with the finishing, citing chipped or jagged indices, unchamfered case edges, and sunken indices. Some owners also find the movement unremarkable for the price point, and opinions on the bracelet finishing are mixed, with some noting it as mid-tier compared to higher-end brands, though later batches reportedly show improvements. On balance, owners are divided on the Atelier Wen Perception, with strong opinions on both its striking dial and its inconsistent finishing.

From video reviewers

The pietersite dial is a standout aesthetic feature, and the watch is constructed from 904L steel. The slim 9.4mm profile was noted.

Tudor Black Bay 58 Bronze

The Tudor Black Bay 58 Bronze is widely praised for its unique, evolving aesthetic driven by its developing bronze patina, which owners describe as an incremental pleasure and a conversation starter. Reviewers highlight its warm, vintage feel, achieved through the aging bronze case, root-beer brown bezel, and rose gold-toned dive scale, complemented by applied Arabic numerals on a 39mm case. The MT5400 movement is noted for its 70-hour power reserve and COSC-certified accuracy, with one owner reporting a net loss of about one second every three days. The bezel action is described as firm and reassuring, tighter than steel Black Bay models. Owners report the watch wears well dressed up or down, and its finishing is favorably compared to higher-end brands. However, some owners note the soft bronze case scratches easily and can cause blueing on the wrist in hot weather.

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