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Gruppo Gamma Vanguard SteelvsLilienthal Berlin Zeitgeist Automatik – Dark Silver Orange

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What people say

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Gruppo Gamma Vanguard Steel

The Gruppo Gamma Vanguard Steel is praised for its aged steel case and cream sandwich dial. However, some owners dislike the distorted sapphire crystal and the absence of minute markers, with one noting difficulty in replacing the crystal due to hand fitment. The watch features a Miyota 9039 movement with a 42-hour power reserve and an accuracy range of -10 to +30 seconds per day, and is offered with two strap options. On balance, owners value the Gruppo Gamma Vanguard Steel for its distinctive aged aesthetic and dial design, despite some reservations about the crystal.

From video reviewers

Movement accuracy is a notable strength, with one reviewer noting a -1.8 second per day deviation after initial testing. A weakness is the substantial price hike for the re-release model, which raises questions about whether the upgrades justify the cost. Reviewers disagree on the watch's originality, with one calling it "decidedly derivative" and the other not mentioning this aspect.

Lilienthal Berlin Zeitgeist Automatik – Dark Silver Orange

Owners praise the Lilienthal Berlin Zeitgeist Automatik – Dark Silver Orange for its minimalist German design, which appeals as both casual and business-casual wear. The Sellita SW200-1 automatic movement is reported to run within 2 seconds per day over 12 days and features a custom black rotor visible through an open caseback. One owner feels a full black version should be priced lower. Overall, owners rate the Lilienthal Berlin Zeitgeist Automatik – Dark Silver Orange highly for its sophisticated Bauhaus design and reliable movement at the price point.

At a glance

12 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Vanguard Steel42mm
Zeitgeist Automatik – Dark Silver Orange42.5mm
Power Reserve
Vanguard Steel42h
Zeitgeist Automatik – Dark Silver Orange
Water Resistance
Vanguard Steel100m
Zeitgeist Automatik – Dark Silver Orange50m
MSRP
Vanguard Steel$790
Zeitgeist Automatik – Dark Silver Orange$557

Full specifications

Case

6 specs
Diameter
42mm
42.5mm
Thickness
12.6mm
0mm
Lug-to-Lug
49.5mm
0mm
Lug Width
22mm
0mm
Material
Stainless Steel
Water Resistance
100m
50m

Crystal & Dial

3 specs
AR Coating
Yes
Dial Color
Forged Carbon
Lume
Super-LumiNova
None

Movement

2 specs
Caliber
Miyota 9039
Sellita SW200-1
Power Reserve
42h
0h

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$790
$557
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