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Gruppo Gamma Vanguard SteelvsLilienthal Berlin Zeitgeist Automatik – Silver Bordeaux

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What people say

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Gruppo Gamma Vanguard Steel

The Gruppo Gamma Vanguard Steel is praised for its aged steel case and cream sandwich dial. However, some owners dislike the distorted sapphire crystal and the absence of minute markers, with one noting difficulty in replacing the crystal due to hand fitment. The watch features a Miyota 9039 movement with a 42-hour power reserve and an accuracy range of -10 to +30 seconds per day, and is offered with two strap options. On balance, owners value the Gruppo Gamma Vanguard Steel for its distinctive aged aesthetic and dial design, despite some reservations about the crystal.

From video reviewers

Movement accuracy is a notable strength, with one reviewer noting a -1.8 second per day deviation after initial testing. A weakness is the substantial price hike for the re-release model, which raises questions about whether the upgrades justify the cost. Reviewers disagree on the watch's originality, with one calling it "decidedly derivative" and the other not mentioning this aspect.

Lilienthal Berlin Zeitgeist Automatik – Silver Bordeaux

Lilienthal Berlin Zeitgeist Automatik – Silver Bordeaux owners praise its minimalist design as highly versatile across casual and formal contexts, with one reporting the SW200 movement averaging under 2 seconds per day over 12 days of wear. The open caseback showcases the movement and its custom black rotor. Pricing views are mixed; one owner considers the watch good value, while another feels the full black variant deserves a $100 lower price point. Overall, owners rate the Zeitgeist Automatik highly for its clean aesthetic and reliable timekeeping at its current positioning.

At a glance

12 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Vanguard Steel42mm
Zeitgeist Automatik – Silver Bordeaux42.5mm
Power Reserve
Vanguard Steel42h
Zeitgeist Automatik – Silver Bordeaux
Water Resistance
Vanguard Steel100m
Zeitgeist Automatik – Silver Bordeaux50m
MSRP
Vanguard Steel$790
Zeitgeist Automatik – Silver Bordeaux$539

Full specifications

Case

6 specs
Diameter
42mm
42.5mm
Thickness
12.6mm
0mm
Lug-to-Lug
49.5mm
0mm
Lug Width
22mm
0mm
Material
Stainless Steel
Water Resistance
100m
50m

Crystal & Dial

3 specs
AR Coating
Yes
Dial Color
Forged Carbon
Lume
Super-LumiNova
None

Movement

2 specs
Caliber
Miyota 9039
Sellita SW200-1
Power Reserve
42h
0h

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$790
$539
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