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Archimede Watches Pilot 39vsSeiko Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Enamel Dial

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Archimede Watches Pilot 39

Archimede Watches Pilot 39 owners praise its clean design, craftsmanship, and value, with the 39mm case size noted as suitable for smaller wrists. One owner reported a unit stopped keeping time within months and experienced poor customer service regarding warranty. Accuracy varies, with one owner noting +10 seconds per day, while another prefers the utilitarian look of the flat crystal and the patina potential of bronze on the 39H Bronze variant. Overall, owners rate the Archimede Watches Pilot 39 highly for its unpretentious pilot watch design and strong value proposition.

From video reviewers

The 39mm case size is a key strength, offering ideal proportions for a daily wear flieger. Sharpness on the bracelet link corners is a comfort trade-off. Reviewers agree on the value proposition compared to competitors.

Seiko Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Enamel Dial

Owners and reviewers widely praise the Seiko Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Enamel Dial for its high-quality, handcrafted enamel dials, with specific commendations for the depth and subtle gloss of urushi lacquer and the excellent legibility of minimalistic markers and contrasting hands. The watches are frequently cited as offering significant value, with one reviewer noting the SPB163 as a great value at €1,300, and another highlighting the series' impressive 100M water resistance and Japanese design inspiration at $1,300 USD. However, the 12.4mm to 12.8mm thickness is noted by multiple sources as a potential area for improvement, with a preference for under 12mm, and one owner dislikes the date window. Accuracy figures for the 6R27 movement range from -15 to +25 seconds per day, and its power reserve is closer to 35-40 hours than the advertised 45 hours.

At a glance

11 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Pilot 3939mm
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Enamel Dial40.2mm
Power Reserve
Pilot 39
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Enamel Dial72h
Water Resistance
Pilot 39100m
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Enamel Dial100m
MSRP
Pilot 39$924
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Enamel Dial$1,400

Full specifications

Case

4 specs
Category
Dress
Diameter
39mm
40.2mm
Thickness
11.4mm
12.1mm
Lug-to-Lug
45mm
48mm

Crystal & Dial

3 specs
Crystal Shape
Curved
AR Coating
Anti-reflective coating on inner surface
Dial Color

Movement

3 specs
Caliber
ETA 2824-2
Seiko 6R5H
Power Reserve
72h
Jewels
0
24

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$924
$1,400
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