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Lilienthal Berlin Lilienthal 1 – Gold BluevsVario 1945 D12 Bronze Fumé

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What people say

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Lilienthal Berlin Lilienthal 1 – Gold Blue

The Lilienthal Berlin Lilienthal 1 – Gold Blue draws mixed owner response. Strengths include satisfyingly finished hands, a clean dial, and scratch-resistant case and glass; the mesh bracelet is noted as comfortable, and owners appreciate the quartz movement and sapphire crystal as solid entry-level specs. However, the community reports significant inconsistency: sharp case edges and strap screws cause discomfort for some, one owner's SuperLuminova placement (hands only) disappointed them, and a crown detached unexpectedly on another unit. Quality control concerns recur across sources—some praise build quality and weight, while others flag machine-stamped finishing and report non-functional watches upon arrival. Customer service and shipping delays are widely flagged as problematic, though a few owners had positive experiences. Price skepticism appears, with one owner questioning whether the nearly $400 cost justifies the Ronda quartz movement and coated case.

Vario 1945 D12 Bronze Fumé

Owners widely appreciate the Vario 1945 D12 Bronze Fumé for its historical representation and the use of two lume colors. The blended branding is considered tasteful by some, though one owner expressed indecision about the logo and crown position. The 37mm bronze case is designed to develop a patina, as are the bronze hands, complementing the gradient matte black dial with faux-patina lume. The Miyota 82S5 automatic movement, however, is noted by owners to be noisy and rattly, with one owner reporting +7 seconds per day accuracy and a 40-hour power reserve. Overall, owners rate the Vario 1945 D12 Bronze Fumé positively for its aesthetic appeal and historical narrative, despite the noisy movement.

From video reviewers

The bronze case developing a patina is a key aesthetic feature. Reviewers found the value proposition to be good at $428 USD.

At a glance

11 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Lilienthal 1 – Gold Blue42.5mm
1945 D12 Bronze Fumé37mm
Power Reserve
Lilienthal 1 – Gold Blue
1945 D12 Bronze Fumé
Water Resistance
Lilienthal 1 – Gold Blue50m
1945 D12 Bronze Fumé100m
MSRP
Lilienthal 1 – Gold Blue$189
1945 D12 Bronze Fumé$428

Full specifications

Case

7 specs
Category
Field
Diameter
42.5mm
37mm
Thickness
7.5mm
10.5mm
Lug-to-Lug
0mm
45mm
Lug Width
0mm
18mm
Material
Stainless Steel
316L Stainless Steel
Water Resistance
50m
100m

Crystal & Dial

1 specs
Dial Color
Grey

Movement

2 specs
Caliber
Miyota 82s5
Type
Quartz
Automatic

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$189
$428
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