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Lilienthal Berlin Lilienthal 1 – Gold BluevsZelos Helmsman 3

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Lilienthal Berlin Lilienthal 1 – Gold Blue

The Lilienthal Berlin Lilienthal 1 – Gold Blue draws mixed owner response. Strengths include satisfyingly finished hands, a clean dial, and scratch-resistant case and glass; the mesh bracelet is noted as comfortable, and owners appreciate the quartz movement and sapphire crystal as solid entry-level specs. However, the community reports significant inconsistency: sharp case edges and strap screws cause discomfort for some, one owner's SuperLuminova placement (hands only) disappointed them, and a crown detached unexpectedly on another unit. Quality control concerns recur across sources—some praise build quality and weight, while others flag machine-stamped finishing and report non-functional watches upon arrival. Customer service and shipping delays are widely flagged as problematic, though a few owners had positive experiences. Price skepticism appears, with one owner questioning whether the nearly $400 cost justifies the Ronda quartz movement and coated case.

Zelos Helmsman 3

Owners widely praise the Zelos Helmsman 3 for its exceptional finishing and polishing on the titanium case, with some noting it feels nicer than previous models. The unique Titanium Crystalline Dial and Damascus Titanium dial are frequently highlighted as aesthetically pleasing and head-turning features, especially considering the price point. The brushed beads of rice bracelet is described as fitting well, and the on-the-fly clasp is considered amazing. Lume is also noted as great, with lumed crowns being a positive observation. However, some owners report the watch can feel top-heavy with sharp edges, making it uncertain as a daily driver for some. The meteorite bezel is seen by one owner as not adding significant value, and the stock strap's keepers and stitching were considered to detract from the watch's appearance.

At a glance

12 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Lilienthal 1 – Gold Blue42.5mm
Helmsman 340mm
Power Reserve
Lilienthal 1 – Gold Blue
Helmsman 3
Water Resistance
Lilienthal 1 – Gold Blue50m
Helmsman 3200m
MSRP
Lilienthal 1 – Gold Blue$189
Helmsman 3$529

Full specifications

Case

7 specs
Category
Diver
Diameter
42.5mm
40mm
Thickness
7.5mm
11.5mm
Lug-to-Lug
0mm
40mm
Lug Width
0mm
20mm
Material
Stainless Steel
316L Stainless Steel
Water Resistance
50m
200m

Crystal & Dial

2 specs
Crystal
Sapphire
Domed Sapphire
Dial Color
SS - Frost

Movement

2 specs
Caliber
Miyota 9015
Type
Quartz
Automatic

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$189
$529
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