Lilienthal Berlin Neolux Silver BrownvsPagani Design PD-1719

Owners widely praise Lilienthal Berlin for its award-winning minimalist design and value, particularly when purchased at a discount, with one owner noting the Meteorite IV model looks as good as a much more expensive watch. Some owners appreciate the blue and orange sunburst dial and good finishing, while others find the dial and hands machine-stamped without polished edges and the leather quality basic. Owners report sharp case edges causing skin irritation and difficult-to-remove strap pins, with one finding it unwearable due to discomfort, though another enjoyed the clean design and good lume. The brand's minimalist aesthetic is praised, but some models lack lume, and some owners have experienced significant shipping delays and unresponsive customer support, with some describing the company as potentially fraudulent. Overall, owners rate Lilienthal Berlin highly for its Bauhaus-inspired design and perceived value, though concerns about quality and customer service are noted.

Owners widely report issues with the Pagani Design PD-1719's hand alignment and lume quality, with one noting bezel play. The applied indices are appreciated, and the NH38 movement is mentioned positively by one owner. The hands are described by some as resembling chess pieces or parsnips. Overall, owners express disappointment, citing QC issues and a perceived overpricing compared to alternatives.