Lilienthal Berlin Neolux Skeleton – Dark GreyvsSeiko Presage Style60's

Owners widely praise Lilienthal Berlin for its award-winning minimalist design and value, particularly when purchased at a discount, with one owner noting the Meteorite IV model looks as good as a much more expensive watch. Some owners appreciate the blue and orange sunburst dial and good finishing, while others find the dial and hands machine-stamped without polished edges and the leather quality basic. Owners report sharp case edges causing skin irritation and difficult-to-remove strap pins, with one finding it unwearable due to discomfort, though another enjoyed the clean design and good lume. The brand's minimalist aesthetic is praised, but some models lack lume, and some owners have experienced significant shipping delays and unresponsive customer support, with some describing the company as potentially fraudulent. Overall, owners rate Lilienthal Berlin highly for its Bauhaus-inspired design and perceived value, though concerns about quality and customer service are noted.

The Seiko Presage Style60's collection is praised for its pleasing retro aesthetic, with reviewers highlighting the box-shaped crystal, faceted indexes, and applied markers. Specific models are noted for their smaller 39.5mm case size and comfortable new bracelet, alongside a charming steel bezel, though this bezel is decorative. The collection offers an affordable price point, with time-and-date models costing €490-€540 and GMT versions at €670. However, the automatic 4R35 movement's claimed accuracy tolerance of +45/-35 seconds per day is flagged as a potential dealbreaker by multiple sources. The Open Heart models feature a 41-hour power reserve and a 24-hour sub-dial, with one reviewer expressing a personal dislike for open-heart dials and questioning the strap choice on a specific rose gold PVD model. GMT models use the 4R34 automatic GMT movement, while open-heart versions use the 4R39 movement. All models feature Hardlex crystals and 50m water resistance.