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Lilienthal Berlin Neolux Skeleton – Dark GreyvsSeiko Presage Cocktail Time

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Lilienthal Berlin Neolux Skeleton – Dark Grey

Owners widely praise Lilienthal Berlin for its award-winning minimalist design and value, particularly when purchased at a discount, with one owner noting the Meteorite IV model looks as good as a much more expensive watch. Some owners appreciate the blue and orange sunburst dial and good finishing, while others find the dial and hands machine-stamped without polished edges and the leather quality basic. Owners report sharp case edges causing skin irritation and difficult-to-remove strap pins, with one finding it unwearable due to discomfort, though another enjoyed the clean design and good lume. The brand's minimalist aesthetic is praised, but some models lack lume, and some owners have experienced significant shipping delays and unresponsive customer support, with some describing the company as potentially fraudulent. Overall, owners rate Lilienthal Berlin highly for its Bauhaus-inspired design and perceived value, though concerns about quality and customer service are noted.

Seiko Presage Cocktail Time

Seiko Presage Cocktail Time is widely praised for its visually stunning dials and exceptional value, appearing more expensive than its price point. Owners highlight the dial, indices, hands, and crown as particularly well-executed. However, some owners note the absence of a sapphire crystal and the potential for quality control issues. One owner describes the case as large, round, and uninspired. Overall, owners rate the Seiko Presage Cocktail Time highly for its attractive dial designs and strong value proposition.

At a glance

13 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Neolux Skeleton – Dark Grey42mm
Presage Cocktail Time40.5mm
Power Reserve
Neolux Skeleton – Dark Grey42h
Presage Cocktail Time41h
Water Resistance
Neolux Skeleton – Dark Grey
Presage Cocktail Time50m
MSRP
Neolux Skeleton – Dark Grey$679
Presage Cocktail Time$595

Full specifications

Case

6 specs
Category
Dress
Diameter
42mm
40.5mm
Thickness
0mm
14.4mm
Lug-to-Lug
0mm
47.5mm
Lug Width
0mm
20mm
Water Resistance
50m

Crystal & Dial

3 specs
Crystal
Sapphire
Hardlex
Crystal Shape
Box
Dial Color

Movement

3 specs
Caliber
4R57
Power Reserve
42h
41h
Jewels
0
29

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$679
$595
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