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Lilienthal Berlin Neolux Skeleton – Dark GreyvsTraska Summiteer Charcoal

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What people say

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Lilienthal Berlin Neolux Skeleton – Dark Grey

Owners widely praise Lilienthal Berlin for its award-winning minimalist design and value, particularly when purchased at a discount, with one owner noting the Meteorite IV model looks as good as a much more expensive watch. Some owners appreciate the blue and orange sunburst dial and good finishing, while others find the dial and hands machine-stamped without polished edges and the leather quality basic. Owners report sharp case edges causing skin irritation and difficult-to-remove strap pins, with one finding it unwearable due to discomfort, though another enjoyed the clean design and good lume. The brand's minimalist aesthetic is praised, but some models lack lume, and some owners have experienced significant shipping delays and unresponsive customer support, with some describing the company as potentially fraudulent. Overall, owners rate Lilienthal Berlin highly for its Bauhaus-inspired design and perceived value, though concerns about quality and customer service are noted.

Traska Summiteer Charcoal

Owners widely praise the Traska Summiteer Charcoal for its comfortable 38.5mm size, short lugs, clean dial, and proud crystal, with some noting its excellent fit and finish and smooth winding action. Timekeeping averages +2 seconds per day, and the hardened steel treatment is a valued addition. Some owners find the dial plain and prefer textured alternatives, and one owner experienced dial alignment issues with a recent Traska release. The bracelet is criticized by some for being noisy, sagging, and having a clasp with rough edges, though others praise its on-the-fly micro-adjustment. On balance, owners rate the Traska Summiteer Charcoal highly for its overall package and value proposition at its price point.

At a glance

13 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Neolux Skeleton – Dark Grey42mm
Summiteer Charcoal40mm
Power Reserve
Neolux Skeleton – Dark Grey42h
Summiteer Charcoal42h
Water Resistance
Neolux Skeleton – Dark Grey
Summiteer Charcoal100m
MSRP
Neolux Skeleton – Dark Grey$679
Summiteer Charcoal$700

Full specifications

Case

5 specs
Category
Field
Diameter
42mm
40mm
Lug Width
0mm
20mm
Finish
Brushed + Polished
Water Resistance
100m

Crystal & Dial

3 specs
AR Coating
Underside
Dial Color
Burgundy
Lume
None
Super-LumiNova

Movement

4 specs
Caliber
Miyota 9039
Beat Rate
0 vph
28,800 vph
Jewels
0
24
Complications
None
Chronograph

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$679
$700
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