Lilienthal Berlin Octachrono – Blue OrangevsHelgray Silverstone (Refurbished)

Lilienthal Berlin is praised for its award-winning minimalist and Bauhaus design, with owners appreciating its clean aesthetic and interesting colorways, such as the blue and orange sunburst dial. Some find the build quality comparable to more expensive watches, and one owner reports losing only about 4 minutes per year. However, owners are split on value, with some suggesting alternatives from brands like Seiko or Citizen, and others finding it a good buy, especially with discounts. Multiple owners report significant shipping delays and unresponsive customer support, with some deeming the brand's sales tactics and product quality suspect. The crystal is described as "sapphire hardened mineral crystal" or "sapphire-hardened mineral glass" rather than true sapphire. Overall, owners rate Lilienthal Berlin highly for its striking design and good finishing, though concerns about customer service and shipping times persist.

Owners widely praise the Helgray Silverstone (Refurbished) for its crisp printing, applied indices, legible date wheel, and solid pushers, noting an amazing fit and finish for the price and an attractive aesthetic. Some owners find the metal bracelet squeaks, and the 24-hour subdial is less desirable than sub seconds. One owner criticizes the thick case, downward-angled lugs that can dig into the wrist, and a crystal with noticeable edge effects. Overall, owners rate the Helgray Silverstone (Refurbished) highly for its impressive build quality and aesthetic appeal at its price point.